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JohnFKennedy
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« on: April 20, 2004, 05:15:32 AM »

I know Joe McCarthy was a Senator from Wisconsin, but I am unsure of which party he belonged to, I think it may have been the Republicans but I am unsure, does anyone know?
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« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2004, 05:38:41 AM »

I know Joe McCarthy was a Senator from Wisconsin, but I am unsure of which party he belonged to, I think it may have been the Republicans but I am unsure, does anyone know?
Republicam, though he started his carerer as a democrat
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JohnFKennedy
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« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2004, 05:39:46 AM »

I know Joe McCarthy was a Senator from Wisconsin, but I am unsure of which party he belonged to, I think it may have been the Republicans but I am unsure, does anyone know?
Republicam, though he started his carerer as a democrat

ok, I knew he had some dealings with the Democrats, during the McCarthyism era he was a Republican though, yes?
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2004, 05:43:30 AM »

I know Joe McCarthy was a Senator from Wisconsin, but I am unsure of which party he belonged to, I think it may have been the Republicans but I am unsure, does anyone know?
Republicam, though he started his carerer as a democrat

ok, I knew he had some dealings with the Democrats, during the McCarthyism era he was a Republican though, yes?
sure
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2004, 05:48:43 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2004, 05:51:25 AM »

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/cold.war/kbank/profiles/mccarthy/
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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2004, 07:46:53 AM »

He was a great man too.
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« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2004, 08:01:15 AM »

Joe McCarthy is from Wisconsin.
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« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2004, 08:08:51 AM »


yep, that is what I said.
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« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2004, 09:27:35 AM »

he was a bad dood Cool
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« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2004, 10:07:40 AM »

Joe McCarthy was a bad man.
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« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2004, 10:11:19 AM »

McCarthy was both good and bad.  There was certainly the potential for Communists to infiltrate the U.S. Government and there was evidence that they had.  On the other hand, McCarthy acted like a Communist trying to make his ends justify his means.
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« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2004, 03:24:45 PM »

I wrote an essay today on totalitarian regimes. I considered writing about McCarthy for an example of suppression of dissent. What he did was shameful, and is another poor part of our history
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« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2004, 04:28:42 PM »

McCarthy was both good and bad.  There was certainly the potential for Communists to infiltrate the U.S. Government and there was evidence that they had.  On the other hand, McCarthy acted like a Communist trying to make his ends justify his means.

Yeah, that's pretty much it. But I'm pretty disfavourable to McCarthy, his supporters over-estimated the DOMESTIC Communist threat, I think. And the means were pretty awful...people like McCarthy might actually have lost the Cold War, at least idelogically.
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« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2004, 04:49:03 PM »
« Edited: April 20, 2004, 04:50:27 PM by lidaker »

McCarthy was both good and bad.  There was certainly the potential for Communists to infiltrate the U.S. Government and there was evidence that they had.  On the other hand, McCarthy acted like a Communist trying to make his ends justify his means.

Yeah, that's pretty much it. But I'm pretty disfavourable to McCarthy, his supporters over-estimated the DOMESTIC Communist threat, I think. And the means were pretty awful...people like McCarthy might actually have lost the Cold War, at least idelogically.

Exactly. Some people in America's history have been so fervently anti-communist that they've crossed all intellectual and mental barriers. Joe McCarthy is the best example. There are also people like Barry Goldwater: "Extremism in the defence of liberty is no vice." Extremism is always a vice, I would say. You don't win over extremism with extremism of your own, as Joe Lieberman use to say. (Even if Howard Dean wasn't an extremist. A bit nutty and unbalanced in his view of GWB, yes, but not an extremist.)

The moral collapse of LBJ (among others) during the Vietnam war can be seen in this pattern. Hadn't he been so intensively occupied with the notion that if he withdrew the communists would take over the world (sort of), he might have pulled out of that awful war and saved many lifes and the honor of himself and his country.
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« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2004, 07:34:01 PM »

There were an awful lot of communist sympathizers in the US back then.  J. Edgar Hoover was probably more effective at dealing with them than McCarthy.
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« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2004, 07:41:31 PM »

There were an awful lot of communist sympathizers in the US back then.  J. Edgar Hoover was probably more effective at dealing with them than McCarthy.

McCarthy never proved a case. Not one. He was basically a maniac.
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