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Question: Which of the following Social issues do you see a possible Conservative shift in
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Abortion
 
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Immigration
 
#3
Recreational Cannabis
 
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SSM
 
#5
Assisted Suicide
 
#6
Death Penalty
 
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None of the above
 
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Other(please Specify)
 
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dw93
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« on: July 16, 2017, 11:33:12 PM »

Abortion unfortunately. Not enough of these draconian obstacles Conservatives are putting up to make it harder for a woman to get the procedure are being struck down in the courts, and there are a disturbing number of people that would support forcing a rape victim to give birth to the spawn of a criminal, which in my view is, in a way,  somewhat of a "Soft on crime" position, as your giving a criminal the satisfaction of being a parent, and keep in mind said criminal can use parental laws in many states to control his victim. As far as this issue is concerned, I'm very scared for the future.

We're already moving rightward on immigration (for better and for worse), Recreational Cannabis has, thankfully, been shifting left for years, and will continue to. I can see a day where it's legalized at the federal level (though the private prison industry will fight it tooth and nail). As for SSM, as others have said, it's a done deal. Assisted Suicide is a bit trickier. On the one hand, I can see an overall leftward shift on it, but at the same time, I can see a "Pro Life" movement emerging and one that's just as strong as the one that emerged after 1973. With the Death Penalty, that is seeing a leftward shift as well, which is unfortunate IMHO because the tax payer should not have to feed, cloth, and shelter a criminal who committed a heinous crime (and one that was done without any reasonable doubt) for the rest of their life.
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dw93
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« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2017, 11:40:25 AM »

Abortion unfortunately. Not enough of these draconian obstacles Conservatives are putting up to make it harder for a woman to get the procedure are being struck down in the courts, and there are a disturbing number of people that would support forcing a rape victim to give birth to the spawn of a criminal, which in my view is, in a way,  somewhat of a "Soft on crime" position, as your giving a criminal the satisfaction of being a parent, and keep in mind said criminal can use parental laws in many states to control his victim. As far as this issue is concerned, I'm very scared for the future.

The "conservative" attitude on abortion in rape cases has nothing to do with the criminal. To conflate the snuffing out of the genetic offspring of a rapist with punishment or justice is to do either of those terms a gross miscarriage. I am unsure whether your position, or beet's interpretation of inherent misogyny in abortion opposition, is more absurd.

Obviously it doesn't have anything to do with the criminal, their still unintentionally letting the criminal  win though in my view. With that said, criminals aside,  I still think the conservatives not wanting to allow abortions in cases of rape is absurd and dangerous to a woman's mental and emotional health.
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