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tmthforu94
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« on: October 09, 2015, 08:37:25 am »

Considering that we will more than likely reduce the number of regions, leading to a legislative reset in the regions, I think a restart at the federal level is necessary as well.
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2015, 05:02:40 pm »

That is why I said before it would be good if we had some way of constitutionally preventing trivial junk from being introduced into the federal or regional legislatures.
That would be ideal, but I cannot think of any way of doing it that wouldn't be completely subjective.
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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2015, 04:13:34 pm »

Obviously we should keep some laws (for example, laws against murder, rape, and robbery), but other than that, I support a clean slate.
The expectation would be that if we do a legislative repeal, we will simply revert to the status quo in America right now, then work from there. Laws are already in the books on those things. Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2015, 04:33:59 pm »

So, correct me if I' wrong, but the only vote here should be simply whether or not to do it. If we do it, then we don't include a clause in the constitution stipulating otherwise. If we vote against wiping laws, then we add that clause. Are we also wanting to wipe judicial rulings?
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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2015, 03:37:22 pm »

So, things we need to decide...
1. If we do the legislative reboot, at what year in US policy do we start?
2. Do we get rid of judicial rulings as well?

For 1), I would recommend doing it now - the biggest piece of legislation we have recently had is Obamacare, and I am reasonably certain something similar to it would easily pass anyways (See Fritzcare). As for 2), I would say yes, since many of the rulings are based on laws that we would be repealing.

Therefore, I propose that we leave a section out requiring that legislation and rulings to roll over. Since this is non-binding I don't know if any more than that is required to get a vote on it.
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« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2015, 01:31:05 pm »

Seems pretty straight-forward to me. A fresh start is needed, and I think it would be difficult to keep regional laws if we're consolidating. As to the third question, the third option is simply out of the question. Reverting to 2004 will require more effort as a lot has changed since then - starting now puts everyone on good footing and allows us to have debates that are relevant IRL, which should draw in more interest.

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[quote]What should be the basis of the new Statute?
[  ] We should revert to the status quo as of February, 2004
[X] We should use the current US statute (up to the date of ratification)
[  ] All laws, including pre-2004 legislation, should be repealed
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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2015, 02:25:10 am »

Nay
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tmthforu94
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2015, 10:21:35 pm »

I'm sorry, but it is absolutely pathetic that over 2/3s of delegates didn't vote on this.

Is there a limit on how many votes a delegate can miss before they are kicked out? I'm tackling a plethora of RL issues and am still able to show up to vote.
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tmthforu94
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« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2015, 03:24:56 am »

Aye
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tmthforu94
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2015, 01:08:57 am »

Aye
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