Fox News national poll: Biden beats Republicans and Clinton doesn’t

[Mr. Morden]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2015/10/13/fox-news-poll-biden-more-electable-than-clinton/

[JonathanSwift]

Assuming uniform swings from 2012:

Carson vs. Clinton

372-166

Trump vs. Clinton

332-206

Bush vs. Clinton

331-207

Fiorina vs. Clinton

311-227

Biden vs. Rubio

303-235

Biden vs. Bush/Carson/Fiorina

332-206

Biden vs. Trump

375-163

[jaichind]

Why no Rubio vs Clinton ?  At this stage there is a very statistically relevent chance that will end up being the match-up in the general election.  Looking at Rubio vs Biden results it seem Rubio should be ahead if Clinton in this poll by a significant margin.

[MT Treasurer]

But according to Atlas, Clinton still is a much stronger candidate than Biden.

[King]

Biden's numbers are really bad news for the Republicans, even if it's Hillary as the nominee. He's the sitting Vice President and the face of the Obama White House and he's easily ahead.  It indicates more people are considering voting Democrat than Republican and that's more telling at the end of the day.

But according to Atlas, Clinton still is a much stronger candidate than Biden.

I think they end up doing just as well.

[100% pro-life no matter what]

Why no Rubio vs Clinton ?  At this stage there is a very statistically relevent chance that will end up being the match-up in the general election.  Looking at Rubio vs Biden results it seem Rubio should be ahead if Clinton in this poll by a significant margin.

If he's 14 points stronger than Trump like in the Biden matchup with uniform swings from 2012:

California and Massachusetts heading to recounts.  Possible that Dems only wind up with 53 votes!!!

[jaichind]

I think Biden vs Rubio represents what a Generic D vs Generic R poll result would look like.

[JonathanSwift]

It is notable that Trump does worse than other Republicans by a wide margin when Biden is his opponent, but does better against Clinton than anyone except Carson. Polling (this recent Quinnipiac, as an example) shows that Americans generally regard the Vice President as honest and trustworthy, but deem both Clinton and Trump to be lacking in that regard. By contrast, all three are regarded as strong leaders, but Clinton less so than Biden, and Biden less so than Trump. The interpretation that one can make is that Americans will choose the honest leader (Biden) over the dishonest one (Trump); but when faced with the choice between two dishonest candidates, they prefer the stronger leader (Trump). So, by all means, Democrats, nominate Hillary.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

The Morning Consultany poll has Clinton narrowly ahead of Trump, 43-41; I buy that poll than Gravis or Fox who has the GOP house effect. But its still a long way to go.

[Beezer]

Carson by 11 over Clinton? I mean how the  is that even possible?

[Stranger in a strange land]

Why no Rubio vs Clinton ?  At this stage there is a very statistically relevent chance that will end up being the match-up in the general election.  Looking at Rubio vs Biden results it seem Rubio should be ahead if Clinton in this poll by a significant margin.

If he's 14 points stronger than Trump like in the Biden matchup with uniform swings from 2012:

California and Massachusetts heading to recounts.  Possible that Dems only wind up with 53 votes!!!

That isn't possible with the current level of polarization. Preferences will harden as the election gets closer. In the current environment, each party has an absolute floor of about 150 EVs.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

Carson by 11 over Clinton? I mean how the  is that even possible?

No, he is riding high in polls & Dems have the 262 blue wall. His polls will come down to earth when he faces scrutiny.

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

But according to Atlas, Clinton still is a much stronger candidate than Biden.

2 years ago Biden number's were hideous, while Hillary's were about the same as his are now. He'll collapse too if he enters.

[Ljube]

Carson by 11 over Clinton? I mean how the  is that even possible?

No, he is riding high in polls & Dems have the 262 blue wall. His polls will come down to earth when he faces scrutiny.

262 blue wall isn't enough.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

We know that CO/Va/Iowa/NH/NV are the tipping pts.