Canada General Discussion: Trudeau II

[DC Al Fine]

Nova Scotia's cyber bullying law has been struck down.

The most bizarre charge under the law involved a high school student posting nude photos of an NDP MLA (she was an actress, and they were stills from a part she played in a movie). Anyway, good riddance. It was a poorly written law.

[Hatman 🍁]

Is all this anger over a farm safety bill? Topkek

Apparently some rednecks think it is LITERALLY genocide.

Essentially, family farmers were concerned that the implementation of the rules would threaten the viability of their farms, and they were highly annoyed by the lack of consultation from the government and the government's refusal to delay passing the bill until after the legislature's winter break. 

In other words, genocide.

[Hatman 🍁]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/police-likely-to-investigate-death-threats-against-rachel-notley-security-expert-says-1.3362620?cmp=rss

It doesn't matter if these people are just "howlers" as law enforcement puts it, they should be made an example of. There should be ZERO TOLERANCE for death threats against public figures.

[DC Al Fine]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/police-likely-to-investigate-death-threats-against-rachel-notley-security-expert-says-1.3362620?cmp=rss

It doesn't matter if these people are just "howlers" as law enforcement puts it, they should be made an example of. There should be ZERO TOLERANCE for death threats against public figures.

We should probably set up a rotation to visit Hash in Kingston Pen then...

[Hatman 🍁]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/police-likely-to-investigate-death-threats-against-rachel-notley-security-expert-says-1.3362620?cmp=rss

It doesn't matter if these people are just "howlers" as law enforcement puts it, they should be made an example of. There should be ZERO TOLERANCE for death threats against public figures.

We should probably set up a rotation to visit Hash in Kingston Pen then...

As much as Hash hated Harper, I do not recall any death threats.

[Talleyrand]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/police-likely-to-investigate-death-threats-against-rachel-notley-security-expert-says-1.3362620?cmp=rss

It doesn't matter if these people are just "howlers" as law enforcement puts it, they should be made an example of. There should be ZERO TOLERANCE for death threats against public figures.

We should probably set up a rotation to visit Hash in Kingston Pen then...

As much as Hash hated Harper, I do not recall any death threats.

He once made a joke about how Mike Harris be cooked in an oven. Not anywhere close to a death threat, but some people don't understand hyperbole...

[HagridOfTheDeep]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/police-likely-to-investigate-death-threats-against-rachel-notley-security-expert-says-1.3362620?cmp=rss

It doesn't matter if these people are just "howlers" as law enforcement puts it, they should be made an example of. There should be ZERO TOLERANCE for death threats against public figures.

We should probably set up a rotation to visit Hash in Kingston Pen then...

That would be some kind of sadistic solitary confinement these days.

Although it's strangely very pretty these days. I went to school for my B.Ed. basically a block away.

[Hatman 🍁]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/police-likely-to-investigate-death-threats-against-rachel-notley-security-expert-says-1.3362620?cmp=rss

It doesn't matter if these people are just "howlers" as law enforcement puts it, they should be made an example of. There should be ZERO TOLERANCE for death threats against public figures.

We should probably set up a rotation to visit Hash in Kingston Pen then...

As much as Hash hated Harper, I do not recall any death threats.

He once made a joke about how Mike Harris be cooked in an oven. Not anywhere close to a death threat, but some people don't understand hyperbole...

This would have been after he was Premier, so not as treasonous.

[RogueBeaver]

Grits worried about an Albertan economic meltdown.

[DC Al Fine]

Defeated Tory MP Steven Fletcher will be acclaimed as the PC candidate in Assiniboia for the next Manitoba provincial election.

[MaxQue]

Romeo Saganash MP (NDP, Abitibi-Baie James-Nunavik-Eeyou) won't seek a 3rd term in 2019.

[RogueBeaver]

Will Trudeau loosen the PMO reins? Believe if seen.


No surprise that Trudeau shrunk from pink slips and running shoes, at least so far.

Trudeaus vacationing in St. Kitts-Nevis.

[RogueBeaver]

Fife said 5 senators will be appointed this month.

Seamus O'Regan tweeted that he's entering a treatment program to adopt an alcohol-free lifestyle, will be back for Parliament's return. Best wishes to him.

[DC Al Fine]

The NS NDP leadership election will be on Feb 27th, and will use IRV.

Tl;dr of the linked article:

Burrill: Left wing socialist
Wilson: Dexter-wing, centrist
Zann: In between

[Vega]

Burrill: Left wing socialist

He doesn't sound that left wing, from what I've read.

[DC Al Fine]

Burrill: Left wing socialist

He doesn't sound that left wing, from what I've read.

It's Nova Scotia. No one's very anything.

[RogueBeaver]

Trudeau aiming for a Chinese FTA.

[Poirot]

Jean-François Fortin, founder and leader of Forces et Démocratie is leaving politics.

[136or142]

Jean-François Fortin, founder and leader of Forces et Démocratie is leaving politics.

It's fitting as the voters left him.

[136or142]

The NS NDP leadership election will be on Feb 27th, and will use IRV.

Tl;dr of the linked article:

Burrill: Left wing socialist
Wilson: Dexter-wing, centrist
Zann: In between

Hardly got any coverage as they said it wouldn't be held until 2017.  Was the date just announced?  I would have assumed based on the lack of coverage (and likely lack of interest in the general public) that they'd have waited until at least May.

[136or142]

Not on the Nanos website yet:
http://www.news1130.com/2016/01/06/weak-economy-and-low-loonie-not-hurting-trudeau-governments-popularity/

"Around 60 per cent of people surveyed by Nanos Research say they’re remarkably happy with what Justin Trudeau’s government is doing. (I think 'remarkably happy' is the reporter Simon Druker's term and is not from Nanos.)

Just over that number feel Canada is moving in the right direction."

[DC Al Fine]

I just did the math and I am a 8 hour drive from the nearest non-Liberal seat (Rimouski)

[RogueBeaver]

Mulcair is safe.

Uniting the Albertan right will have to be done the hard way, as was always the case. Preferable IMO. Dunno where the idea of federal Tories joining the Progs came from.

[136or142]

Mulcair is safe.

I said from the start that whether Mulcair stays or goes will be left up to him, and I don't know if he's decided on that (actually I said originally that the genuine 'socialists' in the NDP would likely try to get him to step down.)

I think he deserves another shot because while Einstein said "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is the definition of insanity" going through two elections with the same things is not 'over and over.'

Nik Nanos said something like "Thomas Mulcair is well respected by the public and they had no problems with the NDP platform, the problem for him was just that they preferred Justin Trudeau as the alternative to Harper."

Mulcair needs to improve his debate performances according to the experts (although I personally thought he was fine in the debates), but if the Liberals are unpopular after four years, Mulcair could run on the exact same platform and get a completely different result.

[Hatman 🍁]

Until the NDP can get a Corbyn or a Sanders type to replace Mulair, they will have to hold their noses a keep him.

The problem for the NDP is that the Liberals have shifted to the left in their attempts to prevent the right-drifting NDP from winning. It worked, so the NDP will have to go to the left in their rhetoric. It won't necessarily win them an election, but it will get some much needed momentum behind them, enough to be able to play king maker in a minority government if we ever get proportional representation.

Hopefully for the NDP's sake, the Liberal's will do as they always do, and govern on the right (no indication of this yet), and so won't have to go too far to the left in the next campaign.