Canada General Discussion: Trudeau II

[mileslunn]

She is from York Region, which is trending Conservative relative to the rest of the GTA.  She only won narrowly in the big red wave.

Also her riding went massively PC last June going 56% so this was probably one of the lowest hanging fruits for the Conservatives.  Not saying it is totally out of principle, but I think the Conservatives probably had a slight edge here to begin with.

[DC Al Fine]

Sorry, why exactly is this a phenomenon? Is Andrew Scheer too, what, moderate? Surely not. Or just not an inspiring leader?

I'd say it's two things:

1) Harper kept a lot of people under wraps in order to gain power. Scheer has failed to keep those people happy.

2) Bernier has an ego the size of the Canadian Shield.

[DC Al Fine]

She is from York Region, which is trending Conservative relative to the rest of the GTA.  She only won narrowly in the big red wave.

Also her riding went massively PC last June going 56% so this was probably one of the lowest hanging fruits for the Conservatives.  Not saying it is totally out of principle, but I think the Conservatives probably had a slight edge here to begin with.

She has a military background so it's not outlandish that she might find the Tories appealing, but since she is a backbencher with no track record of rightist statements, I'm going to assume its self interest.

Guilty until proven innocent

[cp]

She is from York Region, which is trending Conservative relative to the rest of the GTA.  She only won narrowly in the big red wave.

Also her riding went massively PC last June going 56% so this was probably one of the lowest hanging fruits for the Conservatives.  Not saying it is totally out of principle, but I think the Conservatives probably had a slight edge here to begin with.

She has a military background so it's not outlandish that she might find the Tories appealing, but since she is a backbencher with no track record of rightist statements, I'm going to assume its self interest.

Guilty until proven innocent

Yup, that sounds about right. Military folk tend to lean Conservative in Canada most of the time, so the groundwork is laid. If she thinks she's going to be listened to more as a Tory backbencher than a Liberal one, fair enough. If she thinks she's lining herself up for a Cabinet position in the 2019-2023 Scheer government ... she may be being a touch premature.

2) Bernier has an ego the size of the Canadian Shield.

*Epic* analogy. Well done.

[136or142]

Sorry, why exactly is this a phenomenon? Is Andrew Scheer too, what, moderate? Surely not. Or just not an inspiring leader?

He's an airhead who can only speak about policy using meaningless right wing cliches.

[DC Al Fine]

2) Bernier has an ego the size of the Canadian Shield.

*Epic* analogy. Well done.

Haha, thanks.

[DC Al Fine]

The Libertarian Party is considering merging with Bernier's new outfit.

[RogueBeaver]

https://twitter.com/4xInsight/status/1042419395119800321

[JoeyOCanada]

The Libertarian Party is considering merging with Bernier's new outfit.

Intriguing but I doubt this would have any major effect.

[RogueBeaver]

This week at Rideau Hall: Both government officials and Payette herself are quite frustrated with her performance to the extent there's speculation her term might end early.

[136or142]

https://www.nationalnewswatch.com/2018/09/28/montreal-area-mp-nicola-di-iorio-mulling-political-future/#.W662iWhKiM-

But in a message on his Facebook page this week, the MP says he is giving himself another month to reflect on his future as well as to consult his loved ones and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

That message came after he told Le Progres de Saint-Leonard, a weekly newspaper in his neighbourhood, he would stay on until the end of his mandate in 2019.

[RogueBeaver]

https://twitter.com/RobertFife/status/1046103979376209925

[Poirot]

So it was probably true they were waiting after the elections to sign a deal with concessions.

[RogueBeaver]

https://twitter.com/TondaMacC/status/1046576328349118464

[Poirot]

Le Devoir is reporting on Bernier's new party. The party has recruited 20 374 members and raised $338,000. They say by comparison the Conservative party has about 100,000 members and the Green 20,000.  The party expect to  raise $3.5 million this year. In 2017 the Conservatives raised $20 million, Liberals $15.7 million and NDP $4.8 million. The article also talks about some Conservatives in Quebec on riding executives switching to the new party.

https://www.ledevoir.com/politique/canada/538193/parti-progressiste-conservateur-bernier-debauche-six-presidents-d-association-au-quebec   

[RogueBeaver]

https://twitter.com/MercedesGlobal/status/1047567275816050690

[Njall]

https://twitter.com/MercedesGlobal/status/1047567275816050690

This move has a similar effect as Notley's tbh. They're still going ahead with their "made in Manitoba" $25/tonne carbon tax, which will be above the federal standard until 2020.

[RogueBeaver]

Adam van Koeverden will be the Grit candidate against Lisa Raitt in Milton.

[DC Al Fine]

Adam van Koeverden will be the Grit candidate against Lisa Raitt in Milton.

Neat. I paddled and met him the one year I went to nationals. Very nice and approachable guy. You'd think someone like him would be able to get a safer seat instead of trying to pick off a Tory notable.

[Hatman 🍁]

Just adding to the long list of notable athletes/minor celebrities running as sacrificial lambs for the Liberal Party. Remember when Ross Rebagliati ran?

[ETA: Rebagliati didn't actually run apparently, he dropped out. Still though, wanting to run against Stockwell Day was a bit of an uphill battle]

[RogueBeaver]

It's his hometown and there aren't any safer ones open. I'd have given Bennett an ambassadorship, maybe WHO rep, and given him St. Paul's.

[DC Al Fine]

It's his hometown and there aren't any safer ones open. I'd have given Bennett an ambassadorship, maybe WHO rep, and given him St. Paul's.

Haha. If I ever got a safe seat, I'd be angling for a cushy ambassadorship as soon as I could. Hon. DC Al Fine, Ambassador to the Bahamas has a nice ring to it

[136or142]

It's his hometown and there aren't any safer ones open. I'd have given Bennett an ambassadorship, maybe WHO rep, and given him St. Paul's.

Does WHO Rep matter?  Carolyn Bennett is flaky.

[King of Kensington]

It's his hometown and there aren't any safer ones open. I'd have given Bennett an ambassadorship, maybe WHO rep, and given him St. Paul's.

I'm thinking Eric Hoskins might run in St. Paul's.

[RogueBeaver]

https://twitter.com/ChrisGNardi/status/1049745435265564674