Canada General Discussion: Trudeau II

[RogueBeaver]

In non-Ottawa news. https://twitter.com/Travisdhanraj/status/1103432038676348928

[RogueBeaver]

Celina Caesar-Chavannes expounds on her recent tweets.

[Suburbia]

What did the promising world leader do wrong?

[RogueBeaver]

https://twitter.com/l_stone/status/1106601585692553222

[RogueBeaver]

QC-prov Leger: 44/21/15/15. Brutal poll for both PLQ and PQ. No one since Bouchard's won a majority of Francophones, while Grits only poll 10% among Francophones.

[RogueBeaver]

https://twitter.com/cmaconthehill/status/1107701501995020289

[Continential]

Why would anyone vote for the Greens? It's like the American Green Party which has a Stein cult but Canada has a May cult.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Why would anyone vote for the Greens? It's like the American Green Party which has a Stein cult but Canada has a May cult.

From my understanding, neither of those statements are true.

[HagridOfTheDeep]

I think the conversation around what one might call "green values" is also a little bit different here than it is in the United States, though I might be wrong. Anthropogenic climate change is obviously worth discussion (and that's an understatement), but it seems like there are more shades of environmentalism here because of the deservedly big focus we're putting on Reconciliation with Indigenous people. It doesn't feel like Green Party politics in Canada is Al Gore's brand of climate action. It's deeply connected to place, history, stewardship, and interconnectedness between people and the "more-than-human world." Maybe I'm conflating politics with my own niche interests, but the CBC seems to dig into these issues a lot differently than the American media does, which I imagine does influence our national consciousness to conceptualize environmental issues just a little bit differently too.

[PSOL]

Why would anyone vote for the Greens? It's like the American Green Party which has a Stein cult but Canada has a May cult.

From my understanding, neither of those statements are true.

The May cult is more true considering how long she has been leader. For the American Green Party, Jill Stein isn’t running again in 2020, signaling the end to her presidential runs and waning of her power in the party at-large. The American Green Party seems to be taken over by more eco-socialist and nonwhite members, as seen from the 2016 anti-Capitalist stance and Ajamu Bakur as the recent running mate.

[Continential]

Credit to T. Chopra
This can help anyone who doesn't know Canadian politics
Québec - Gouvernement Majoritaire du Coalition Avenir du Québec
Parti Liberal (Moderate Left-Wing)
Supporté par les Libéraux Fédéraux
Coalition Avenir du Québec (Moderate Right-Wing)
Supporté par les Conservateurs Fédéraux
Québec Solidaire (Socialist - Left Wing)
Supporté par le NPD Fédéraux
Parti Quebecois
Supporté par le Bloc Québécois


Ontario - Progressive Conservative Majority Government
Liberal Party (Moderate Left-Wing)
Supported by the Federal Liberals
Progressive Conservative Party (Moderate Right-Wing)
Supported by the Federal Conservatives
New Democratic Party (Socialist - Left Wing)
Supported by the Federal NDP
Green Party (Environmentalist - Left Wing)
Supported by the Federal Greens


BC - New Democratic Party Coalition w/ the Green Party “Majority Government”
Liberal Party (Moderate Right-Wing)
Supported by the Federal Conservatives
New Democratic Party (Socialist - Moderate - Left Wing)
Supported by the Federal NDP
Green Party (Environmentalist - Left Wing)
Supported by the Federal Greens


Alberta - New Democratic Party Majority Government
United Conservative Party (Moderate Right-Wing)
Supported by the Federal Conservatives
New Democratic Party (Socialist - Moderate - Left Wing)
Supported by the Federal NDP
Many other smaller parties

Saskatchewan - Saskatchewan Party Majority Government
Saskatchewan Party (Conservative)
Supported by the Federal Conservatives
New Democratic Party (Socialist - Left Wing)
Supported by the Federal NDP


Manitoba - Progressive Conservative Majority Government
Progressive Conservative Party (Moderate Right-Wing)
Supported by the Federal Conservatives
New Democratic Party (Socialist - Left Wing)
Supported by the Federal NDP
Manitoba Party (Libertarian - Right Wing)
No Federal Counterpart (perhaps in the future the PPC)
Liberal Party (Liberal - Left Wing)
Supported by the Federal Liberals


Yukon - Liberal Majority Government
Liberal Party (Moderate Left-Wing)
Supported by the Federal Liberals
Yukon Party (Moderate Right-Wing)
Supported by the Federal Conservatives
New Democratic Party (Socialist - Left Wing)
Supported by the Federal NDP


New Brunswick - PC & PA Coalition “Majority Government”
Liberal Party (Moderate Left-Wing)
Supported by the Federal Liberals
Progressive Conservative Party (Moderate Right-Wing)
Supported by the Federal Conservatives
New Democratic Party (Socialist - Left Wing)
Supported by the Federal NDP
Green Party (Environmentalist - Left Wing)
Supported by the Federal Greens
People’s Alliance (Centre-Right)
No Federal Counterparts

Nova Scotia - Liberal Majority Government
Liberal Party (Moderate Left-Wing)
Supported by the Federal Liberals
Progressive Conservative Party (Moderate Right-Wing)
Supported by the Federal Conservatives
New Democratic Party (Socialist - Left Wing)
Supported by the Federal NDP
Green Party (Environmentalist - Left Wing)
Supported by the Federal Greens


Prince Edward Island - Liberal Majority Government
Liberal Party (Moderate Left-Wing)
Supported by the Federal Liberals
Progressive Conservative Party (Moderate Right-Wing)
Supported by the Federal Conservatives
Green Party (Environmentalist - Left Wing)
Supported by the Federal Greens


Newfoundland & Labrador - Liberal Majority Government
Liberal Party (Moderate Left-Wing)
Supported by the Federal Liberals
Progressive Conservative Party (Moderate Right-Wing)
Supported by the Federal Conservatives
New Democratic Party (Socialist - Left Wing)
Supported by the Federal NDP


Nunavut & the Northwest Territories - Independent Governments
They elect Independent Members, these people have no public political affiliation (e.g. Green, PPC, NDP, Conservative, Liberal etc.)

[LabourJersey]

Why are the BC Liberals supported by the Federal Tories? Is BC that much more left-leaning than the rest of Canada?

Also why is Saskatchewan the only province that has just two parties?

[Tintrlvr]

Why are the BC Liberals supported by the Federal Tories? Is BC that much more left-leaning than the rest of Canada?

Also why is Saskatchewan the only province that has just two parties?

The BC Liberals are a purely center-right party. They are significantly to the right of the federal Liberals, though some more center-to-center-right federal Liberals are also BC Liberals. So it is natural that the BC Liberals have the support of many of the federal Conservatives and only more far-right federal Conservatives back the small and disorganized BC Conservatives, which are very far on the right. The BC NDP is a center-left party and includes some center-left federal Liberals in addition to federal NDPers.

Saskatchewan is currently the only province with only two parties represented in its legislature. There are, of course, other parties in Saskatchewan, including some that could theoretically win seats. A number of other provinces are effectively two-party provinces as well, though all have a least one member of a third party currently in office.

[DC Al Fine]

That summary has a lot of errors and issues. E.g. Putting Quebec politics on a left-right spectrum alone doesn't make sense.

[Poirot]

I'm not used to seeing the Quebec Liberals being put on the left. Being a party concerned with the economy and on the side of business, it's ususally considered centre right on economics.

[Poirot]

On the provincial scene, Catherine Fournier quit the PQ caucus and that puts Québec Solidaire with more members in the assembly into second opposition role. The PQ has always people causing problems from the inside. 

[Lechasseur]

That summary has a lot of errors and issues. E.g. Putting Quebec politics on a left-right spectrum alone doesn't make sense.

Yeah, in Quebec I think it's more about Federalists (Liberals) vs Nationalists (most of the other parties). The Quebec Liberals were even led by the former federal Progressive Conservative leader, Jean Charest, for a long time, and I think he was the last Liberal Premier of Quebec if I'm not wrong.

At anyrate if I lived in Quebec I'd be a Conservative voter at federal level but a Liberal voter at provincial level.

[Poirot]

nd I think he was the last Liberal Premier of Quebec if I'm not wrong.

He was not the last. Philippe Couillard was Premier from April 2014 through October 2018.