Canada General Discussion: Trudeau II

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Demographics of the new parliament:

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/canada-politics/women-and-visible-minorities-make-election-gains-154729934.html

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What are we to make of the Bloc? They don't have official party status, nor has Duceppe been elected; but will this mini-revival stave off their demise?

I think the NDP is in not that bad a shape in retrospect. Their caucus is a lot more balanced - before it seemed to be Quebec + a handful of other guys, now it seems less vulnerable to the strange and fickle nature of the Québécois electorate. They lost a lot of talented people, but they stil exist - and I imagine a lot of the carer ones could enter their provincial NDP politics and really stir the pot. Plus Trudeau's cabinet is going to be full of people like Blair and Leslie who will probably lose the "progressive" label pretty quickly.


The hard part for the NDP is either getting a decent and reliable hold on Toronto seats or looking away from the capital. He GTA is just a frustrating region for the party.

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And also Duceppe is basically their only good politician. He's funny, can argue a point well, has a wide appeal etc. we'll see if the new bunch has anybody who can hold a candle, but for the most part Quebec is less interested in having sovereignties in parliament, locking the province from influencing government by entering power.

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Is all this anger over a farm safety bill? Topkek

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Has Bieber's war on FPTP sunk down to provinical level yet?

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Err, Costa Rica, Australia, Denmark, Slovakia...

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IRV would hit Bloc worst, I assume?

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The NDP better hope the housing booms in Toronto and Vancouver burst and/or liberals antagonise Quebec.

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Trudeau contemplating privatizing major airports to raise infrastructure cash.

CETA still on track.

would he sell the one named after his dad?

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Woah,  and the Newfie grits were starting from behind after their landslide victory. I assume some oil induced austerity?

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Econ update: financial position deteriorating, more red ink will gush.

this links to an article on the election in Yukon

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lol Trump is friends with Mulroney? lmao

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Goddamit Bieber.

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That would be a great chart to stick in instinctive America bashers' faces.

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That would be a great chart to stick in instinctive America bashers' faces.

Quite so, although it wold confirm the biases of our instinctive Quebec bashers

The mosque monitoring and headscarf bans are particularly worrying. How on earth can we claim to be 'progressive' and want to monitor minority religions and tell them what to wear?!

Tbh I think the regions most ripe for seizure by the populist right is the Atlantic provinces imo.

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I would say no. Elections aren't independent events - there is overspill over borders - but it isn't as simplistic as that. Especially as O'Leary isn't really that much like Wilders or Le Pen or even Trump (beyond the superficial similarities).

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WHOA: Ambrose quitting politics after the new leader is elected.

Jesus, how many actual prominent Harper people are left?

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Lol at the random PC revival though!

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What is more important for QS, separatism or leftism?

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Any chance of an early Alberta election?

Can't think why the NDP would call one, especially considering their only hope is to hope the oil prices rise soon and the diasterous move by Prentice in 2015 that brought them into power in the first place.

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I think more to the point, it's a successful time for the Liberal brand rather than "progressive politics". After all, most of the Atlantic Canada liberals are hardly particularly progressive.

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Trudeau era cabinet minister Allan MacEachen has died.

"Trudeau era" confused me there for a sec!

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Quick question: How many current fringe parties do you think would win seats if we switched to the Dutch system? (i.e. We know the major parties would break up and form new parties if we changed, but what about the current fringey types)

The Libertarians were already 2/3's of the way to a seat in 2015 despite only running 70 candidates, so I'm sure they'd get a couple seats. Christian Heritage didn't do well in 2015, but I'm sure they could tap into socons dissatisfied with the Tories if the system changed. Anyone else?

What specifically is the Dutch system?

Nationwide constituency, no threshold.

I could imagine a suite of parties getting in tbh - there would be astonishing low barier to getting on - the Communists, the Rhinos, the Marxists Leninists, the Pirates and the Animal Party would probably get their feet in the door. Assuming they get on the national ballot.

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If what they claim is true, then when was the last time the entire political establishment of a country was decapitated on such a scale?

Brazil in the past few years?

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I've heard rumours there is a much bigger explosive sex scandal lurking that will hit someone a lot higher up and bigger than Patrick Brown.  Not sure if there is any truth in these rumours, but it would not surprise me if by year's end someone even higher up the food chain gets taken down.

Couldn't it be Trudeau, could it?

That seems to be the implication (as well as Scheer, possibly?)