Canada General Discussion: Trudeau II

[brucejoel99]

It's Julie Payette. So, at least they got the profession correct.

Sorry, maybe I'm uninformed lol, but who's the "they" you're referring to??

[brucejoel99]

It's Julie Payette. So, at least they got the profession correct.

Sorry, maybe I'm uninformed lol, but who's the "they" you're referring to??

John Ivison specifically. RB posted an article on the last page by him claiming Chris Hadfield was going to be the next GG.

Ah, okie lolol, thanks

[brucejoel99]

Unification approved by 95.4% of Wildrose members, w/ 24,598 eligible Wildrosers casting a ballot, a voter turnout of 57.7%: 23,466 voted yes & 1,132 voted no.

PCs voted 95% for unification w/ Wildrose, w/ a total of 27,060 PC members voting, equating to 55% of those eligible to cast a ballot. 25,692 voted yes. 1,344 voted no. 24 spoiled their ballots.

It's happening.

[brucejoel99]

Kenney seems to think that WR + PC = automatic power.

He was involved in the PC/CA merger in '04. He should know better.

[brucejoel99]

A few comments for the folks salty about the merger:

Kenney seems to think that WR + PC = automatic power.

He was involved in the PC/CA merger in '04. He should know better.

That's a bit revisionist:

2000 election: Alliance + PC = 37.7%
2003 polls: Alliance + PC = ~28%

2015 election: Wildrose + PC= 52.0%
2017 polls: Wildrose + PC = ~66%

Before Adscam broke, Unite the Right was all about being avoiding being slaughtered by the Liberals. UCP would have to choke way worse than the '04 Tories did to lose the next election.

Yeah, true. Even if similar numbers abandon the new merged party (about 20%), that's still enough to stay even w/ the NDP at about 40-45%. That's when all that NDP vote locked up in Edmonton becomes a problem, & that's just assuming they stay the same. The UCP's on much better footing, w/out a shadow of a doubt.

To be fair, though: even though the UCP's goal is to replicate provincially what Harper & MacKay did in '03 when their parties merged to form the Conservatives, while their plan worked out, the newly formed party wasn't ready for the '04 election, allowing Martin's Liberals to get re-elected. It took Harper 2 more years for his party to win a minority gov't. So just based on that playbook, it illustrates some of the difficulties.

All that can be said is that we shall see what happens to the UCP come 2019 lol

[brucejoel99]

Party was barely ready, but a series of tactical errors cost Harper that election. Also cost him majorities in '06/'08.

Why did they give Harper a second chance after that humiliating 2004 defeat? Mulclair got turfed out after one loss, as did Dion,and Ignatieff.

B/c they still credited him w/ having been able to bring the PC Party & Alliance together (however precariously) in a short time to fight a (relatively) close election.

[brucejoel99]

FPTP wins with 61% in BC.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!