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« on: October 27, 2015, 12:57:03 pm »

Report.

Clinton - 46%
Bush - 43%

Bush - 46%
Sanders - 40%

Carson - 49%
Clinton - 43%

Carson - 48%
Sanders - 37%

Cruz - 46%
Clinton - 45%

Cruz - 45%
Sanders - 41%

Fiorina - 45%
Clinton - 43%

Huckabee - 48%
Clinton - 44%

Clinton - 44%
Kasich - 42%

Rubio - 48%
Clinton - 42%

Trump - 48%
Clinton- 42%

Trump - 48%
Sanders - 41%

Trump - 43%
Clinton - 41%
Webb - 8%
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« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2015, 01:01:55 pm »

Plausible numbers
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« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2015, 01:02:23 pm »

https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/659067273093775360

Hillary Clinton's doing an average 4 pts better in match ups with Republicans in NC than she was a month ago:
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« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2015, 01:04:14 pm »

Jeb is not up by 1 nationally in PPP national and up by five points in NC last month but all of the sudden 3+ points under in North Carolina. Definitely calling audience/poll variation here.
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« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2015, 01:05:26 pm »

Webb takes almost nothing from Clinton, but quite a bit from Trump.
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« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2015, 01:06:56 pm »

lol at webb
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2015, 01:08:30 pm »

Webb at 8? I have a hard time believing that.
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2015, 01:14:50 pm »

Jeb is not up by 1 nationally in PPP national and up by five points in NC last month but all of the sudden 3+ points under in North Carolina. Definitely calling audience/poll variation here.

A lot has changed since the beginning of October, regarding PPP national. She changed the narrative with a good debate performance, Biden/Chafee dropped out, and she got more good coverage with the Benghazi hearings. Dissatisfied Democrats are coming back, and independents are realizing the Republican overreach with the hearings and people are tired of her damn emails.
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2015, 01:20:53 pm »

Jeb is not up by 1 nationally in PPP national and up by five points in NC last month but all of the sudden 3+ points under in North Carolina. Definitely calling audience/poll variation here.

A lot has changed since the beginning of October, regarding PPP national. She changed the narrative with a good debate performance, Biden/Chafee dropped out, and she got more good coverage with the Benghazi hearings. Dissatisfied Democrats are coming back, and independents are realizing the Republican overreach with the hearings and people are tired of her damn emails.
True, this is Hillarys Spotlight week.
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« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2015, 01:27:02 pm »

I doubt she carries NC. Unlike Va or FL where Latinos and Blks make of balance, she doesnt need the state.
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« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2015, 01:39:51 pm »

Wow, surprisingly good numbers for Rubio. LOL@Bush.

Webb takes almost nothing from Clinton, but quite a bit from Trump.

This is not surprising at all. Blacks and Hispanics aren't going to vote for Webb. He'd basically be Ross Perot with 17 or 18% less support.
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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2015, 07:32:56 am »

Last time, Hillary Clinton was losing them all.
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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2015, 11:43:34 am »

New Poll: North Carolina President by Public Policy Polling on 2015-10-25

Summary: D: 42%, R: 49%, U: 9%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

None of the candidates are leading her by 7%. Carson, Trump and Rubio are leading her by 6%.
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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2015, 04:22:37 pm »

Webb tweeted about his surge...

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In the 1st poll we're aware of that asked voters to consider Jim as an #independent, he received 8% in NC. via @ppppolls #WebbNation #aStart

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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2015, 05:01:34 pm »

No surprise. North Carolina won't flip unless the Republicans nominate a literal joke candidate like Trump or Jindal LOL.
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« Reply #15 on: October 31, 2015, 06:03:08 am »

No surprise. North Carolina won't flip unless the Republicans nominate a literal joke candidate like Trump or Jindal LOL.

LOL, Trump or Carson, who are unelectable, will be the nominees
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« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2015, 01:07:23 pm »

No surprise. North Carolina won't flip unless the Republicans nominate a literal joke candidate like Trump or Jindal LOL.

LOL, Trump or Carson, who are unelectable, will be the nominees

It is extremely ignorant for you to confirm this half a year out OC.

Rubio could very very likely surge. He has momentum really starting to snowball, Trump's "firestrucken momentum" is slowing down quickly (Momentum, not poll numbers yet. Two different things, yet momentum loss will flair out poll numbers with spans of time.) and Ben will flair out eventually (not quite enough substance & depth to policy and issues).
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« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2015, 02:59:40 pm »

Jeb was the presumptive nominee, Kasich was supposed to be nominee & now Rubio. Rubio has missed half his votes in Senate & had a 45 percent approval rating when he decided to retire.

Trump is a billionaire and has lead on TV ads. Carson, Trump or Rubio can win, but Trump has cash money to spend, not donations.
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« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2015, 09:42:47 pm »

Jeb was the presumptive nominee, Kasich was supposed to be nominee & now Rubio. Rubio has missed half his votes in Senate & had a 45 percent approval rating when he decided to retire.

Trump is a billionaire and has lead on TV ads. Carson, Trump or Rubio can win, but Trump has cash money to spend, not donations.

Can you please provide a link for this "Rubio has a 45% approval rating" statistic you constantly cite?
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« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2015, 09:34:53 am »

Jeb was the presumptive nominee, Kasich was supposed to be nominee & now Rubio. Rubio has missed half his votes in Senate & had a 45 percent approval rating when he decided to retire.

Trump is a billionaire and has lead on TV ads. Carson, Trump or Rubio can win, but Trump has cash money to spend, not donations.

Can you please provide a link for this "Rubio has a 45% approval rating" statistic you constantly cite?

I forget which pollster had last shown Marco Rubio with a 45% approval rating as a Senator. That would likely have been adequate for getting re-elected, assuming that he were even an average campaigner as an incumbent.  (Most elected pols have approval ratings about 6% below what they were elected with; they can't please everyone with their votes or their governing. Thus they must campaign for re-election).

I had thought that Rubio could win re-election if he wanted it.  But he apparently doesn't.
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« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2015, 10:23:58 pm »

So much for them being the most electable.
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« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2015, 01:23:36 am »

PPP snark aside, 8% for Webb seems surprisingly strong.
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« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2015, 09:13:58 pm »

So much for them being the most electable.

I'd still wager they are.  Polls this far out aren't all that important.  What do you want to bet that both would beat Hillary in North Carolina?
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« Reply #23 on: November 09, 2015, 04:22:13 pm »

So much for them being the most electable.

I'd still wager they are.  Polls this far out aren't all that important.  What do you want to bet that both would beat Hillary in North Carolina?

This time in 1987, Mike Dukakis looked extremely electable. His weaknesses as a politician were largely unknown.

Hillary Clinton is consistent. She does not make contradictory promises. She has survived the confrontation with the Congressional Republicans that were loaded for bear. The only questions are whether there will be an economic meltdown or an international disaster that people can attach to President Obama in specific and Democrats in general.

The leading Republican prospects have no experience in elected public office and little as political campaigners.
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