How will you stop the shootings?

[NeverAgain]

There have been 355 American mass shootings this year. Hundreds of people are dying senselessly. Many on the Right blame mental illness and say these tragedies are just not preventable. I disagree, I think that with proper gun legislation and licensing we can prevent these awful atrocities from penetrating every American's right to life. What do you think?

[Green Line]

I have no idea anymore.  Even if we enacted strict gun control tomorrow, there are so many guns out there already its almost impossible to regulate it at this point.  What a bleak situation

[NeverAgain]

I have no idea anymore.  Even if we enacted harsh gun control tomorrow, there are so many guns out there already its almost impossible to regulate it at this point.  What a bleak situation

We can still stop those who are attempting to access a gun. Most shooters do not even have a weapon until weeks even days before they plan on shooting.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Unless you use eugenics to somehow magically eliminate all mental illnesses, public suicides are inevitable.

[NeverAgain]

Unless you use eugenics to somehow magically eliminate all mental illnesses, public suicides are inevitable.

Are you implying that all shooters have genetically related mental illness and a culture of gun violence has nothing to do with it? If that's the case why have mass shootings increased drastically since the 80's when there has been no dramatic shift in the gene-pool. So then a follow up to that is why does the U.S. have these rates when other westernized countries don't have these problems.

[Classic Conservative]

You can't stop murder at all. It is something that is sickening but even if we ban guns people will use other weapons. We must remember that the people kill the people but they use the gun as their tool for killing.

[NeverAgain]

You can't stop murder at all.It is something that is sickening but even if we ban guns people will use other weapons. We must remember that the people kill the people but they use the gun as their tool for killing.

No one is saying that we can completely end all murder. What we can do is put in place sensible control laws preventing criminals from getting weapons harmful to others -

I am not sure what you mean by "other weapons". Knives and Swords are much harder to use to kill 20 children, and bombs are pretty hard to come by if you are an average Joe like me.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

People will always die in traffic accidents, lets abolish all road regulations.

No workplace can be a hundred percent safe, ergo health and safety legislation is pointless.

Some people will always be less well off than others - no point even trying to end poverty!

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

Amazingly, not every dark thought and murderous impulse that people have constitutes or can be identified as mental illness.

[Cory]

Amazingly, not every dark thought and murderous impulse that people have constitutes or can be identified as mental illness.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

not sure what I can do personally except for maybe trying to be kind to people - someone could be on the verge of going postal and you might be the one who is there to push them over the edge or bring them back from the brink. 

[Tender Branson]

The only thing that really helps is to take away all the guns, rifles and assault weapons from American people. Which would lead to people using knives and other stuff instead, which would kill way fewer people.

Other than that, US society is wayyy too militarized not only on the street but also in its mind and too stressed and psycho.

It would be better if the average worker not only has 2 weeks of vacation each year to chill out and relax from the stressy work, but 6-8 weeks like workers in other countries.

Plus more mental health programs of course.

But US society as it now stands is too militaristic, armed, stressed out and psycho.

This would take decades to solve.

[Slander and/or Libel]

You can't stop murder at all. It is something that is sickening but even if we ban guns people will use other weapons. We must remember that the people kill the people but they use the gun as their tool for killing.

On the same day as Sandy Hook, a man in China brought a machete into a day care and started slashing. He wounded 22 children. Adam Lanza killed 20. That's the difference. Guns make killing easy and efficient. That's what they're designed to do.

[dead0man]

What "sensible gun laws" do you guys want in California that California doesn't already have?  Please, be specific.  For your convenience, here is Cali's gun laws webpage.

[Green Line]

What "sensible gun laws" do you guys want in California that California doesn't already have?  Please, be specific.  For your convenience, here is Cali's gun laws webpage.

State specific gun laws won't work because people can simply cross state lines

[Mr. Reactionary]

People will always die in traffic accidents, lets abolish all road regulations.

No workplace can be a hundred percent safe, ergo health and safety legislation is pointless.

Some people will always be less well off than others - no point even trying to end poverty!

Too many people are dying in traffic accidents, let's ban red cars.

Food health is important, let's selectively require Arby's employees to wash their hands both before using the restroom instead of just after.

Saw is a scary movie, let's require a 3 day waiting period for the purchase of hacksaws.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

People will always die in traffic accidents, lets abolish all road regulations.

No workplace can be a hundred percent safe, ergo health and safety legislation is pointless.

Some people will always be less well off than others - no point even trying to end poverty!

Too many people are dying in traffic accidents, let's ban red cars.

Food health is important, let's selectively require Arby's employees to wash their hands both before using the restroom instead of just after.

Saw is a scary movie, let's require a 3 day waiting period for the purchase of hacksaws.

V funny, but rather missing my point, eh?

[Mr. Reactionary]

Unless you use eugenics to somehow magically eliminate all mental illnesses, public suicides are inevitable.

Are you implying that all shooters have genetically related mental illness and a culture of gun violence has nothing to do with it? If that's the case why have mass shootings increased drastically since the 80's when there has been no dramatic shift in the gene-pool. So then a follow up to that is why does the U.S. have these rates when other westernized countries don't have these problems.

Those contemplating suicide because they feel isolated and alone have learned that they can live forever if they commit suicide by cop, because the media will talk about nothing else.

[Mr. Reactionary]

People will always die in traffic accidents, lets abolish all road regulations.

No workplace can be a hundred percent safe, ergo health and safety legislation is pointless.

Some people will always be less well off than others - no point even trying to end poverty!

Too many people are dying in traffic accidents, let's ban red cars.

Food health is important, let's selectively require Arby's employees to wash their hands both before using the restroom instead of just after.

Saw is a scary movie, let's require a 3 day waiting period for the purchase of hacksaws.

V funny, but rather missing my point, eh?

I don't think so. Given the 300 million guns already in private hands, most of the proposals offered might as well be as pointless. As a whole gun crime is trending downward and has been for sometime even as the number of private guns has proliferated. Suicide by cop is a terrible thing, but the proposals being offered won't stop it.  If we're balancing fundamental rights right here, the justification has to be compelling. The fact that the proposals basically accomplish nothing suggests the state interest is not compelling. I mean, if the statistics cited above are correct 83% of guns used in mass shootings are not assault weapons.

[bagelman]

I don't know

[NeverAgain]

Unless you use eugenics to somehow magically eliminate all mental illnesses, public suicides are inevitable.

Are you implying that all shooters have genetically related mental illness and a culture of gun violence has nothing to do with it? If that's the case why have mass shootings increased drastically since the 80's when there has been no dramatic shift in the gene-pool. So then a follow up to that is why does the U.S. have these rates when other westernized countries don't have these problems.

Those contemplating suicide because they feel isolated and alone have learned that they can live forever if they commit suicide by cop, because the media will talk about nothing else.

That's our awful media, and the way we can put a damper on it is through sensible legislation stopping these individual from obtaining these weapons of mass destruction.

[RINO Tom]

I don't know

This.  On a side note, I'd stop releasing the names of the killers.

[courts]

i agree with background checks and handgun registration. i do think the argument people will just use something else to commit violent crimes is accurate though. the uk took years to actually effectively enforce their gun control laws. and even when they did get gun violence under control there have been a rash of other violent crimes like stabbings. basically i think its a good idea but i accept there will be trade offs and unanticipated consequences just like any other policy

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Sensible Gun Control obviously. Just like other civilized countries.

[ingemann]

Shootings will not stop, I advice you people just learn to live with it.