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« on: December 12, 2015, 01:14:15 pm »

I noticed there are some Isidewith polls on the database for the GOP primary.  But can we trust this website? 

They do an average of data from 30 days.  Giving the dynamic nature of the GOP race.  I don't think that would be reliable. 

But this seal the deal for me.

For the DEM primary, for the recent 1000 votes.  It look sort of right.

https://www.isidewith.com/map/A8FQ/2016-democratic-primary#z5

But if we go back to 1 month,

https://www.isidewith.com/map/A8Ei/2016-democratic-primary#z5

Sanders leads every states.
Same thing with 3 months ago, and data beyond that.

This make no sense.  If the DEM #s are this wrong, then how can the GOP #s are trusted in the data base.

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« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2015, 01:44:23 pm »

and where are the GOP numbers???
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« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2015, 01:48:47 pm »

The GOP numbers seem very reasonable, at least for the top candidates. The Dem numbers have always been biased toward Sanders. The GOP numbers were initially biased toward Paul but that seems to have long since washed out.


https://www.isidewith.com/map/A8L4/2016-republican-primary#z5

See also:

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« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2015, 01:54:07 pm »

Hmm, am i reading it wrong?? 

https://www.isidewith.com/map/A8LR/2016-republican-primary#z5

For the most RECENT votes, Rand Paul took 36 states.

So no.  The site need to be consistent to be taking seriously.

If in the same system, Sanders dominated.  Then how can that system be trusted?
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« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2015, 01:56:23 pm »
« Edited: December 12, 2015, 01:58:01 pm by realisticidealist »

Hmm, am i reading it wrong??  

https://www.isidewith.com/map/A8LR/2016-republican-primary#z5

For the most RECENT votes, Rand Paul took 36 states.

So no.  The site need to be consistent to be taking seriously.

If in the same system, Sanders dominated.  Then how can that system be trusted?

Don't use "fresh", use "new".
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« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2015, 01:58:28 pm »

Rubio is doing well in the Northeast (in that he's in second place in most states), suggesting that he's being backed by what's left of the Snowe/Collins-type Republicans up there.
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« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2015, 01:59:11 pm »

Do you have examples of polls in the database, so I can remove them ?

Those are no scientific polls (to whoever entered them).
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« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2015, 02:03:39 pm »

Do you have examples of polls in the database, so I can remove them ?

Those are no scientific polls (to whoever entered them).

https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016R/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=2320151101106

I don't have time to look through all the states.  But something like this, it look pretty legit for Maine and probably align with reality.  But still it from the same website that put Sanders as the front runner.
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« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2015, 02:06:29 pm »

Do you have examples of polls in the database, so I can remove them ?

Those are no scientific polls (to whoever entered them).

https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016R/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=2320151101106

I don't have time to look through all the states.  But something like this, it look pretty legit for Maine and probably align with reality.  But still it from the same website that put Sanders as the front runner.

Thx.

Looks like "realisticidealist" put them into the database.

So, please "realisticidealist": delete them again, because unscientific Internet polls should not be included there.
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« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2015, 02:07:05 pm »


See this is where you fell apart.  Fresh is more current than new.  You argue that "new" is more legit.  But only in the Fresh map is Clinton dominate.  The New map, she lost every states.  So in the Dem, the "fresh" is the more correct one.  Which meant Fresh or New, the site is bullsh**t.

You make it sounds like, there was an initial Rand flood but it washed out over time.  Where the opposite happened, the Rand spam just got started and probably will be worst over time in the coming months.
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« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2015, 02:13:02 pm »
« Edited: December 12, 2015, 02:14:52 pm by realisticidealist »


See this is where you fell apart.  Fresh is more current than new.

No it's not. The total voters, especially in smaller states, should tell you that much.

Do you have examples of polls in the database, so I can remove them ?

Those are no scientific polls (to whoever entered them).

https://uselectionatlas.org/POLLS/PRESIDENT/2016R/polls.php?action=indpoll&id=2320151101106

I don't have time to look through all the states.  But something like this, it look pretty legit for Maine and probably align with reality.  But still it from the same website that put Sanders as the front runner.

Thx.

Looks like "realisticidealist" put them into the database.

So, please "realisticidealist": delete them again, because unscientific Internet polls should not be included there.

I've moved them back to the beginning and voided their results.
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« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2015, 02:17:07 pm »

In which states did you enter them, so I can delete them ?
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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2015, 02:22:05 pm »

In which states did you enter them, so I can delete them ?

States that are rarely polled: AK, CO, ID, MT, NE, NM, ND, SD, UT, WA
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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2015, 02:29:19 pm »

In which states did you enter them, so I can delete them ?

States that are rarely polled: AK, CO, ID, MT, NE, NM, ND, SD, UT, WA

Well, it seems I cannot delete these polls either ...
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