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« Reply #75 on: December 20, 2015, 03:57:03 AM »

Overtime is a Pro-Sanders outfit that popped up out of nowhere spewing outliers aimed at pretending Sanders is surging.
The website shows no contact  information other than an email address.
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« Reply #76 on: December 20, 2015, 04:20:29 AM »

The website shows no contact  information other than an email address.

We should email them and invite them here to defend their polls.
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« Reply #77 on: December 20, 2015, 04:22:23 AM »

On the plus side, we are going to get Texas and Massachusetts polls.
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« Reply #78 on: December 20, 2015, 06:38:18 AM »

I assume their methodology is as robust as elsewhere lol
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« Reply #79 on: December 20, 2015, 06:41:10 AM »

Overtime is a Pro-Sanders outfit that popped up out of nowhere spewing outliers aimed at pretending Sanders is surging.
The website shows no contact  information other than an email address.

Source ?

They released an IA poll recently which showed almost the same results as the Selzer poll.

If you think this outfit here is pro-Sanders, you can also say that PPP is a pro-Hilldog outfit because their numbers often are more pro-Hillary than others ... which is equally idiotic.
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« Reply #80 on: December 20, 2015, 07:45:20 AM »

Overtime is a Pro-Sanders outfit that popped up out of nowhere spewing outliers aimed at pretending Sanders is surging.
The website shows no contact  information other than an email address.

Source ?

They released an IA poll recently which showed almost the same results as the Selzer poll.

If you think this outfit here is pro-Sanders, you can also say that PPP is a pro-Hilldog outfit because their numbers often are more pro-Hillary than others ... which is equally idiotic.

It's also that these guys are very untested, that doesn't mean they're bad, it means they need to see how they go. It's also that their SC was way off the polling consensus and it has NV roughly as close as IA...  

Plus they've got a ridiculous methodology.
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« Reply #81 on: December 20, 2015, 08:18:24 AM »

Overtime is a Pro-Sanders outfit that popped up out of nowhere spewing outliers aimed at pretending Sanders is surging.
The website shows no contact  information other than an email address.

Source ?

They released an IA poll recently which showed almost the same results as the Selzer poll.

If you think this outfit here is pro-Sanders, you can also say that PPP is a pro-Hilldog outfit because their numbers often are more pro-Hillary than others ... which is equally idiotic.

PPP has a history of accuracy as reflected by its B grade by Nate Silver.
Plus we know where to contact PPP and who owns it.

Who owns Overtime? Names please.
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« Reply #82 on: December 20, 2015, 12:50:39 PM »

These guys are untested, but their polls aren't really that unbelievable.

In Iowa, OP had Clinton up by 10 while Selzer had Clinton up by 9.
In South Carolina, OP had Clinton up 56-30, while YouGov had Clinton up 67-31.
In Nevada, OP had Clinton up by 51-39, while CNN (back in October) had Clinton up 50-34.
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« Reply #83 on: December 20, 2015, 04:38:34 PM »

Looking at their twitter feed, Overtime Politics very clearly against Hillary Clinton.
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« Reply #84 on: December 20, 2015, 10:51:17 PM »

Of course they're anti-Clinton. Why work overtime when Hillary pays minimum wage?
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« Reply #85 on: December 20, 2015, 10:54:55 PM »

Still waiting for that Texas poll....
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« Reply #86 on: December 21, 2015, 12:11:56 AM »


It'll be up pretty soon.
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« Reply #87 on: December 21, 2015, 12:17:46 AM »

will there be republican numbers?
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« Reply #88 on: December 21, 2015, 12:45:55 AM »
« Edited: December 21, 2015, 12:48:37 AM by Castro »

Texas poll conducted over Dec 15-­19, 2015

Hillary Clinton - 55%
Bernie Sanders - 34%
Martin O’Malley - 1%
Undecided - 10%

http://overtimepolitics.com/pollingdata/OvertimePolitics.comDec15-19DemocraticPrimaryPoll-Texas.pdf
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« Reply #89 on: December 21, 2015, 12:47:54 AM »

If true not bad for sanders! Also O'malley needs to drop out he is going to perform worse then Edwards in 2008 after he dropped out.
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« Reply #90 on: December 21, 2015, 01:04:46 AM »

Donald Trump – 140 – 31%
Ted Cruz – 121 – 27%
Marco Rubio – 46 – 10%
Ben Carson – 27 – 6%
Jeb Bush – 26 – 6%
Rand Paul – 22 – 5%
Carly Fiorina – 13 – 3%
John Kasich – 6 – 1%
Chris Christie – 6 – 1%
Other – 10 – 2%
Undecided – 36 – 8%
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« Reply #91 on: December 21, 2015, 01:05:24 AM »

can't post the link as I'm not up to 20 posts yet Sad
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« Reply #92 on: December 21, 2015, 01:34:39 AM »

Sanders is not doing this well in Texas.
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« Reply #93 on: December 21, 2015, 01:43:44 AM »

I would have to disagree, I live in Texas and see a lot of Bernie support on the ground. In addition, a TX Tribune poll last month showed Clinton at 61 and Sanders at 30, so its def. not an impossible number.
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« Reply #94 on: December 21, 2015, 01:47:24 AM »

Sanders is not doing this well in Texas.

Unskewing the polls?
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« Reply #95 on: December 21, 2015, 02:38:34 AM »


HE IS ALL KNOWING!
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« Reply #96 on: December 21, 2015, 02:43:16 AM »
« Edited: December 21, 2015, 02:49:59 AM by Eraserhead »

Alright, what is the deal with these guys?

They came out of nowhere and it looks like they are spitting out a new poll everyday. Also, most of the results seem too pro-Sanders (albeit not ridiculously so).
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« Reply #97 on: December 21, 2015, 02:46:45 AM »

I fear we may be entering a polling dead zone, in which all we have is Overtime Politics and Reuters.  We got the CBS/YouGov polls for Sunday, as well as that new Illinois poll, but are we actually going to have more new polls released during the week leading up to Christmas?  What about the week between Christmas and New Year's?  If Iowa was as early as it was in 2008 and 2012, we would, but I don't think we will this time.  We may get hardly any polls from respectable outlets until late in the week of Jan. 4.

OTOH, maybe Reuters will get even more entertaining, if they keep up polling over Christmas.
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« Reply #98 on: December 21, 2015, 02:49:20 AM »

I haven't looked at the poll to even see if there's crosstabs, but I do know that my 2012 state-by-state breakdowns for Obama's votes by race showed TX as essentially 33/33/33 Black/White/Latino. If you favor them a bit more toward blacks and whites and Sanders is somehow doing equally well among (non-Hispanic) whites and latinos, then it's possible.
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« Reply #99 on: December 21, 2015, 03:27:33 AM »

These Overtime Politics polls seem pretty junky. They seem to indicate Hillary leads Bernie 55-35 (+/- moe) in every single state.
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