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« on: December 23, 2015, 04:19:32 PM »

Rubio:49
Clinton:46

Cruz:48
Clinton46

Clinton:49
Trump:47

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/12/23/cnnpoll2.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2015, 04:44:56 PM »

What is surprising about this poll is the small gender gap, especially for Clinton vs Trump.  It seems the difference between Clinton vs Trump and Clinton vs Rubio is not the women vote (less women support for Trump) but the men vote (less men support for Clinton.)  Quite interesting if true and runs against CW.
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2015, 05:16:08 PM »

Wow, those are quite good numbers for the GOP. But then again, whether they can hold them remains to be seen. I have my doubts.

This race, after the Paris attacks is winnable by Clinton, but it will be a tough race against any of the three candidates. Its a tossup.
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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2015, 06:00:33 PM »

Fox has Trump at 38%, CNN at 47%. WTF?
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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2015, 06:43:21 PM »

This seems to suggest that Cruz can definitely be competitive against Clinton and that he wouldn't lose McCain style like some people think. Rubio seems to be the most electable candidate as a lot of people like him and moderates don't think he's too radical for them. Cruz probably draws a good contrast from Clinton who voters can't stand. I'm surprised Trump is doing this well and I doubt Trump would have the smallest gender gap, considering his lack of appeal to women. This poll might be generous for Trump.
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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2015, 07:07:03 PM »

The 2016 election is also a referendum on how broken things in DC, I dont think both Obama and GOP congress are approved highly by voters. But, Wall Street is still broken and GOP still block min wage increase.

Cruz shutdown the govt, Clinton will tie him to that obstruction. But, Trump has been scrutinized.
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« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2015, 09:15:19 PM »

The 2016 election is also a referendum on how broken things in DC, I dont think both Obama and GOP congress are approved highly by voters. But, Wall Street is still broken and GOP still block min wage increase.

Cruz shutdown the govt, Clinton will tie him to that obstruction. But, Trump has been scrutinized.

Yes. Trump has been scrutinized and nothing was found that could hurt him. That's why he is the strongest GOP candidate. Cruz would be destroyed by Clinton for his obstructionist Government shutdown.
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« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2015, 10:29:38 PM »

This seems to suggest that Cruz can definitely be competitive against Clinton and that he wouldn't lose McCain style like some people think. Rubio seems to be the most electable candidate as a lot of people like him and moderates don't think he's too radical for them. Cruz probably draws a good contrast from Clinton who voters can't stand. I'm surprised Trump is doing this well and I doubt Trump would have the smallest gender gap, considering his lack of appeal to women. This poll might be generous for Trump.

This is a poll 11 months out from the election... It doesn't suggest anything.
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« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2015, 12:11:52 AM »

This seems to suggest that Cruz can definitely be competitive against Clinton and that he wouldn't lose McCain style like some people think. Rubio seems to be the most electable candidate as a lot of people like him and moderates don't think he's too radical for them. Cruz probably draws a good contrast from Clinton who voters can't stand. I'm surprised Trump is doing this well and I doubt Trump would have the smallest gender gap, considering his lack of appeal to women. This poll might be generous for Trump.

This is a poll 11 months out from the election... It doesn't suggest anything.

Unless it has Clinton ahead hmm?
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« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2015, 12:14:25 AM »

Unless a major war/terror attack/scandal/economic collapse happens the race will be close
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« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2015, 05:02:28 AM »

No, but luckily for you, people will continue to remind you that general election polls are meaningless until after the conventions.
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« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2015, 06:37:57 AM »

Unless a major war/terror attack/scandal/economic collapse happens the race will be close

Yes, a 2012 scenario is unlikely and Nate Silver hasnt changed his projection 272-266 winning coalition of Latino vote.
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« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2015, 09:57:50 AM »

Cruz hasn't been scrutinized. His far right record and government shutdowns are the last thing the GOP needs in the general. Once people learn about his positions on social issues and sales tax plan he will be cooked.
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« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2016, 04:25:19 PM »

I'm not saying I don't believe this poll, but where are the undecided voters?
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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2016, 04:40:56 PM »

Clinton can win against Cruz as well, but he hasnt been yet scrutinized by media. I see Kasich or Rubio narrowly ahead, but Christie or Jeb, Cruz and Trump losing abit narrowly to Clinton.
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« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2016, 03:13:15 PM »

Unless a major war/terror attack/scandal/economic collapse happens the race will be close

Yes, a 2012 scenario is unlikely and Nate Silver hasnt changed his projection 272-266 winning coalition of Latino vote.

Nate Silver is God, of course.
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« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2016, 05:23:40 PM »

No, but Trump is the weakest candidate for the GE & he has managed to beat out Jeb, Kasich or Rubio. And 2nd & 3rd generation Latinos are in CO, NV & NM whereas older Latinos are found in GOP leaning states like TX.

And in a neutral year, like most 3rd terms are, Dems have a narrow advantage.
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