National- IBD/TIPP polls for DEM and GOP

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Looking at the 2007 polls, while Obama had done better in some polls in the first half of 2007, the best poll for him for the 7 months before Iowa was a Hillary +5 poll. On the day of the Iowa caucus, the RCP average was Hillary +20.2. This isn't just deja vu, Bernie is doing better than Obama was.

So funny how people keep saying he isn't like Obama in 2008....no he's better.

[Ebsy]

Looking at the 2007 polls, while Obama had done better in some polls in the first half of 2007, the best poll for him for the 7 months before Iowa was a Hillary +5 poll. On the day of the Iowa caucus, the RCP average was Hillary +20.2. This isn't just deja vu, Bernie is doing better than Obama was.

So funny how people keep saying he isn't like Obama in 2008....no he's better.

Ummmm.... this is a lie. The RCP average the day of the caucuses was Obama +1.6, and it was a 3 way race.

[The Other Castro]

Looking at the 2007 polls, while Obama had done better in some polls in the first half of 2007, the best poll for him for the 7 months before Iowa was a Hillary +5 poll. On the day of the Iowa caucus, the RCP average was Hillary +20.2. This isn't just deja vu, Bernie is doing better than Obama was.

So funny how people keep saying he isn't like Obama in 2008....no he's better.

Ummmm.... this is a lie. The RCP average the day of the caucuses was Obama +1.6, and it was a 3 way race.

He was talking about the national average.

[Ebsy]

He was talking about the national average.

Ah, that makes more sense. My apologies.

[Adam Griffin]

Hispanics: Clinton leads 37-33(!)

I've been saying it for a while: any viable pathway for a Sanders victory will be very tight, and such a win will have Latino support roughly mirroring the overall result. In fact, I believe Latino support in the primary will mirror the overall result regardless of who wins; a bellwether, if you will. Of course, Latinos won't be an actual deciding factor in the primary result except in the closest of hard-fought contests, and even then, their votes likely tracking fairly closely with the national totals will merely indicate the verdict of the race as decided by Whites and Blacks.

Latinos in most states will not be much of a factor in the primaries, but I also tend to believe that latinos aren't going to be anywhere near as big of a shoe-in for Clinton as blacks, or even as big as some Atlas posters might think. She'll probably win them but I don't expect her share of their votes will be larger than her share of the national primary vote (nor much smaller) unless it is really close nationally in the PV.

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Hispanics: Clinton leads 37-33(!)

I've been saying it for a while: any viable pathway for a Sanders victory will be very tight, and such a win will have Latino support roughly mirroring the overall result. In fact, I believe Latino support in the primary will mirror the overall result regardless of who wins; a bellwether, if you will. Of course, Latinos won't be an actual deciding factor in the primary result except in the closest of hard-fought contests, and even then, their votes likely tracking fairly closely with the national totals will merely indicate the verdict of the race as decided by Whites and Blacks.

Latinos in most states will not be much of a factor in the primaries, but I also tend to believe that latinos aren't going to be anywhere near as big of a shoe-in for Clinton as blacks, or even as big as some Atlas posters might think. She'll probably win them but I don't expect her share of their votes will be larger than her share of the national primary vote (nor much smaller) unless it is really close nationally in the PV.

It's kind of ironic since in 2008, while Obama obviously won blacks, they kept talking about how he couldn't win Hispanics, who were solidly for Hillary. A lot of Hispanics are Catholic, and it may help that Bernie's wife is Catholic and he mentions the Pope a lot. He had a pretty solid appeal to Hispanics when Raul Grijalva endorsed him. In a 2008 redux, Bernie could be trailing with the delegates until Hispanic rich California puts him over the top in June.

[Ebsy]

No one gives a sh**t about Bernie's wife.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

No one gives a sh**t about Bernie's wife.

LOL obviously you don't.

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No one gives a sh**t about Bernie's wife.

And then the Shillaries play the sexism card against people saying things just as petty as that. These people are really desperate.

[Ebsy]

I'm serious. Diane Sanders is so much of a non-factor in this race, you probably didn't even realize her name is Jane, not Diane.

[Why]

I might have to reconsider my opinion on Sanders chances if this kind of polling is replicated by other pollsters.