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FuturePrez R-AZ
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« on: May 27, 2005, 09:22:51 PM »



Bill Clinton 314 EV 38%
Ross Perot 195 EV 34%
George H.W. Bush 29 EV 27%
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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2005, 03:48:47 PM »

Utah was one of Perot's stronger states.  Perot's weakest showings were in the South, where people have the good sense not to throw their vote away on a kooky third-party candidate.  Now if only the Southerners went back to being Democratic . . . . . .

Top 5 Perot states 1992
1. Maine 30.44% 2nd behind Clinton only state where all 3 in 30's
2. Alaska 28.43% 3rd 1.86% behind Clinton for 2nd
3. Utah 27.34% 2nd behind Bush
4. Idaho 27.05% 3rd 1.37% behind Clinton for 2nd
5. Kansas 26.99% 3rd 6.75% behind Clinton for 2nd
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« Reply #2 on: May 31, 2005, 10:42:59 PM »

Assuming no shenanigans before the EV is cast by the electors, which may be a lot to ask for. I foresee a possible deadlocked House which could delay or prevent the election of a President while Acting President Gore is running things pending the election of a President if the GOP decides to be contentious, and with Minority Leader Gingrich, I think that if they can block a President Clinton they will.

How would the House be deadlocked? I'm sure the Democrats had a majority of House delegations.

What if Clinton was 3rd?  Would that have ever been messy Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2005, 12:56:35 AM »
« Edited: June 01, 2005, 12:58:24 AM by Senate Candidate FuturePrez »

Am I reading this right?  If Clinton took 3rd then the House could vote for him but the Senate couldn't vote for Gore?  Clinton/Stockdale lol Tongue

Amendment XII

The electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;--The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;--the person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President. The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

EDIT: Would make a neat Alternative TL.  Somehow I don't think the American people would have approved of the House giving the election to their 3rd choice.

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« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2005, 01:25:16 AM »

What if four people tied for first place?

Popular votes?
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« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2005, 02:28:50 AM »


No, sorry.  Would popular votes be used as a tiebreaker?  The Constitution doesn't really say anything.  That would certainly be ugly.
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