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« on: February 05, 2016, 09:15:56 PM »
« edited: February 05, 2016, 09:47:06 PM by Holmes »

Trump 27%
Cruz 18%
Rubio 18%
Carson 8%
Kasich 4%
Christie 4%
Bush 3%
Fiorina 2%
Undecided 15%

http://landmarkcommunications.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Georgia-GOP-Pres-Pref-Poll-2.5.16-1.pdf

Clinton 63%
Sanders 22%
Undecided 15%

http://landmarkcommunications.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Dem-Pres-Pref-Primary-Poll-2.5.16.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2016, 09:40:11 PM »

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/news/local/hillary-clinton-has-large-lead-over-sanders-new-ex/nqKkx/
http://landmarkcommunications.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Georgia-GOP-Pres-Pref-Poll-2.5.16-1.pdf
http://landmarkcommunications.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Dem-Pres-Pref-Primary-Poll-2.5.16.pdf

Trump is still nine points ahead of his opponents, but has fallen 16 points since the previous Landmark/RosettaStone poll in December.
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2016, 09:42:11 PM »

There exist non-white people in Georgia, unfortunately for Bernie, the king of Caucasians.
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2016, 09:46:01 PM »

Thanks for posting, but both of these lins send me to a page that says the following:

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I found the date over here:
http://landmarkcommunications.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Georgia-GOP-Pres-Pref-Poll-2.5.16-1.pdf for Republicans,
http://landmarkcommunications.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Dem-Pres-Pref-Primary-Poll-2.5.16.pdf for Democrats.

Interesting to note: Amongst people who identify "Other", Sanders ties Clinton 40.7 to 40.7. I think this poll does have some flaws though. Apparently Sanders's worst age demographic is people between the ages of 18 and 39 which he looses 61.0-13.5. The only demographic he does worse in is African-Americans at 76.7-11.0.
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2016, 09:47:31 PM »

Yeah, I fixed the links in the OP.

Also: small subsamples etc.
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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2016, 09:49:02 PM »

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/primaries/pages/epolls/GA/index.html

Even in 2004, 50% of the Democrat electorate was non White.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/epolls/#GADEM

In 2008, it was 58% non White.
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2016, 09:49:28 PM »

High undecideds as well.
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« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2016, 09:49:32 PM »

Sanders with 11% of African American voters. It's going to be a slaughter.
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« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2016, 09:50:12 PM »

So Trump is collapsing in Georgia, Clinton is still dominating? Meh
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« Reply #9 on: February 05, 2016, 09:51:03 PM »

Republicans Change from Last Month:
Rubio + 7.6
Kasich + 2.9
Cruz + 2.1
Christie + 2.1
Carson + 1.0
Fiorina - No Change
Bush - 1.8
Trump - 15.8

No numbers for the Democratic side.
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« Reply #10 on: February 05, 2016, 10:15:04 PM »

The media will bury this poll since their darling Bernie is getting his butt spanked by the loud female.
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« Reply #11 on: February 05, 2016, 10:32:42 PM »

Let's not declare Bernie dead yet...I think he has a lot to offer and I'm a Hillary fan. And I think a competitive primary makes them both better campaigners, but it seems like African American's have their minds made up...my question is, is there anything Bernie can actually do?
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« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2016, 12:08:07 AM »

Bernie can afford to lose the deep south. He just has to make it up in states like California Ohio and Illinois. When Bernie spanks Hillary on Tuesday I'm sure these numbers will drastically tighten.
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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2016, 12:11:50 AM »

Sanders with 11% of African American voters. It's going to be a slaughter.
Sanders message is that Obama sucks.
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« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2016, 12:22:51 AM »

Kasichmentum?
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« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2016, 12:25:39 AM »

Bernie can afford to lose the deep south. He just has to make it up in states like California Ohio and Illinois. When Bernie spanks Hillary on Tuesday I'm sure these numbers will drastically tighten.

Yeah, I mean if he's losing a state that'll be 55% non-white by 40%, then he sure can win state that are 25-45% non-white! If you think Sanders winning big in one little state will give him so much momentum, how much momentum will Clinton get from huge landslides in South Carolina and the South on Super Tuesday?
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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2016, 02:21:35 AM »

Bernie can afford to lose the deep south. He just has to make it up in states like California Ohio and Illinois. When Bernie spanks Hillary on Tuesday I'm sure these numbers will drastically tighten.

Yeah, I mean if he's losing a state that'll be 55% non-white by 40%, then he sure can win state that are 25-45% non-white! If you think Sanders winning big in one little state will give him so much momentum, how much momentum will Clinton get from huge landslides in South Carolina and the South on Super Tuesday?

By that time things will be tightened and national polls are already indicating this. This is going to be a real horse race.
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« Reply #17 on: February 06, 2016, 02:34:14 AM »

If you say so. But your guy will only have two and half weeks to do what he's been trying to do for six months.
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« Reply #18 on: February 06, 2016, 04:53:38 AM »

Bernie can afford to lose the deep south. He just has to make it up in states like California Ohio and Illinois. When Bernie spanks Hillary on Tuesday I'm sure these numbers will drastically tighten.

Wise words!  Hillary's big buttcheeks are going to be such a rosy shade of media GOP red on Wed. morning that people will have to take notice of her true colors.
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« Reply #19 on: February 06, 2016, 05:15:03 AM »

Better than six months ago, but no real surprise here: the black primary vote is an unmovable, monolithic entity that almost always votes en masse for the candidate either with the highest name recognition, the power of incumbency, or the most "Christian"-sounding name. It's not a popular thing to say, but this is the real reason that Sanders (or any non-establishment candidate, for that matter) has no chance of winning anywhere near the Deep South.
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« Reply #20 on: February 06, 2016, 06:50:48 AM »

Better than six months ago, but no real surprise here: the black primary vote is an unmovable, monolithic entity that almost always votes en masse for the candidate either with the highest name recognition, the power of incumbency, or the most "Christian"-sounding name. It's not a popular thing to say, but this is the real reason that Sanders (or any non-establishment candidate, for that matter) has no chance of winning anywhere near the Deep South.

Yeah, just ignore that Georgia is a more conservative/moderate state and let's blame all the ignorant black voters.
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« Reply #21 on: February 06, 2016, 07:28:03 AM »

Better than six months ago, but no real surprise here: the black primary vote is an unmovable, monolithic entity that almost always votes en masse for the candidate either with the highest name recognition, the power of incumbency, or the most "Christian"-sounding name. It's not a popular thing to say, but this is the real reason that Sanders (or any non-establishment candidate, for that matter) has no chance of winning anywhere near the Deep South.

Yeah, just ignore that Georgia is a more conservative/moderate state and let's blame all the ignorant black voters.

I've written very detailed write-ups on this very complex phenomenon prior to this primary that addresses the data-based, empirical and anecdotal evidence alike - as well as the sensitive concerns and institutional and generational influences behind it - but please, go ahead and boil it down to the "muh racism" talking point in order to absolve yourself of any discussion or thought.
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« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2016, 04:18:03 AM »

Face it guys, she's inevitable.
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« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2016, 06:49:47 AM »

Junk poll; TRUMP is clearly the overwhelming favorite in Georgia.
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« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2016, 10:19:41 AM »


In Georgia, yes.
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