Clinton (D) vs. Trump (R) vs. Bloomberg (I)

[Fritz]

This might actually be the race we end up with...

Discuss with maps;  Here's mine:

Clinton 266
Trump 230
Bloomberg 42

[MaxQue]

No clue, but Bloomberg wins 0 states and polls like 2%.

[IceSpear]

Bloomberg won't run unless Sanders is the nominee, and he wouldn't carry a single state. But he would make a Trump win tremendously more likely.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Bloomberg won't run unless Sanders is the nominee, and he wouldn't carry a single state. But he would make a Trump win tremendously more likely.

We are not going to be bullied by some billionaire into not nominating the guy running against the billionaires.

[IceSpear]

Bloomberg won't run unless Sanders is the nominee, and he wouldn't carry a single state. But he would make a Trump win tremendously more likely.

We are not going to be bullied by some billionaire into not nominating the guy running against the billionaires.

The big money guys have plenty of tools they can use to stop Sanders from becoming president. It's why he's unelectable, despite what useless early polls say. Bloomberg drawing center-left votes and throwing the election to Trump is only the tip of the iceberg. Just wait until he's outspent 20:1 and defined as a Stalinist in the eyes of middle America. That'll go over well.

Bernie Sanders being the Democratic nominee is a wet dream for the Republicans.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Bloomberg won't run unless Sanders is the nominee, and he wouldn't carry a single state. But he would make a Trump win tremendously more likely.

We are not going to be bullied by some billionaire into not nominating the guy running against the billionaires.

The big money guys have plenty of tools they can use to stop Sanders from becoming president. It's why he's unelectable, despite what useless early polls say. Bloomberg drawing center-left votes and throwing the election to Trump is only the tip of the iceberg. Just wait until he's outspent 20:1 and defined as a Stalinist in the eyes of middle America. That'll go over well.

Bernie Sanders being the Democratic nominee is a wet dream for the Republicans.

We are not cowards who are going to roll over for the billionaires. Bernie just raised $2.6 million in 6 hours, he won't be outspent 20 to 1.

[Sir Mohamed]

Bloomberg won't run unless Sanders is the nominee, and he wouldn't carry a single state. But he would make a Trump win tremendously more likely.

Agreed.

[Lexii, harbinger of chaos and sexual anarchy]

Why would Republicans support one of the most anti gun politicians in the country. and on a lot of issues he's les preferable  for the D base than hillary, why  qould any leftwing or anti establishment democrat voto fore a moderate hero unlikable establishment billionaire
He'll be lucky to get 1.5% and he definitely won't win even many counties

[Coolface Sock #42069]

Why would Republicans support one of the most anti gun politicians in the country. and on a lot of issues he's les preferable  for the D base than hillary, why  qould any leftwing or anti establishment democrat voto fore a moderate hero unlikable establishment billionaire
He'll be lucky to get 1.5% and he definitely won't win even many counties

I don't k ow about Dems, but I agree that Republicans are unlikely to support Bloomberg. I would despise both Trump and Clinton but would still pick Trump over Bloomberg (but would pick Gary Johnson if that were the matchup).

[RR1997]

Why would Republicans support one of the most anti gun politicians in the country. and on a lot of issues he's les preferable  for the D base than hillary, why  qould any leftwing or anti establishment democrat voto fore a moderate hero unlikable establishment billionaire
He'll be lucky to get 1.5% and he definitely won't win even many counties

I don't k ow about Dems, but I agree that Republicans are unlikely to support Bloomberg. I would despise both Trump and Clinton but would still pick Trump over Bloomberg (but would pick Gary Johnson if that were the matchup).

There are plenty of moderate Republicans who would support Bloomberg due to his economically moderate positions. I wouldn't be surprised if 30% of his support came from Republicans/Republican-leaning independents (70% of his support would come from Democrats/Democratic-leaning independents).

[Higgs]

Why would Republicans support one of the most anti gun politicians in the country. and on a lot of issues he's les preferable  for the D base than hillary, why  qould any leftwing or anti establishment democrat voto fore a moderate hero unlikable establishment billionaire
He'll be lucky to get 1.5% and he definitely won't win even many counties

I don't k ow about Dems, but I agree that Republicans are unlikely to support Bloomberg. I would despise both Trump and Clinton but would still pick Trump over Bloomberg (but would pick Gary Johnson if that were the matchup).

There are plenty of moderate Republicans who would support Bloomberg due to his economically moderate positions. I wouldn't be surprised if 30% of his support came from Republicans/Republican-leaning independents (70% of his support would come from Democrats/Democratic-leaning independents).

You shouldn't make the assumption that plenty of Republicans would support him, I really doubt it, but where are you getting this idea that he's an economic moderate? His economic policy is pretty much just the generic center-left position. He isn't pro tax cuts, deregulation, spending cuts. Seriously, tell me what positions he holds which are conservative other than school vouchers because I can't find anything else.

[RR1997]

Why would Republicans support one of the most anti gun politicians in the country. and on a lot of issues he's les preferable  for the D base than hillary, why  qould any leftwing or anti establishment democrat voto fore a moderate hero unlikable establishment billionaire
He'll be lucky to get 1.5% and he definitely won't win even many counties

I don't k ow about Dems, but I agree that Republicans are unlikely to support Bloomberg. I would despise both Trump and Clinton but would still pick Trump over Bloomberg (but would pick Gary Johnson if that were the matchup).

There are plenty of moderate Republicans who would support Bloomberg due to his economically moderate positions. I wouldn't be surprised if 30% of his support came from Republicans/Republican-leaning independents (70% of his support would come from Democrats/Democratic-leaning independents).

You shouldn't make the assumption that plenty of Republicans would support him, I really doubt it, but where are you getting this idea that he's an economic moderate? His economic policy is pretty much just the generic center-left position. He isn't pro tax cuts, deregulation, spending cuts. Seriously, tell me what positions he holds which are conservative other than school vouchers because I can't find anything else.

He want to cut entitlements to reduce the deficit.

He wants to raise the social security age.

He's pro school vouchers.

He turned a $5 billion deficit into a $4 billion surplus (with a large portion of this coming from making huge cuts to city agencies)

Staunchly for free trade and against protectionism.

He cut taxes on Wall Street and corporations as mayor. He's against a "Millionaire's Tax." Although he does support letting Bush's Tax Cuts expire.

He's a centrist on economic issues, and far-left on social issues.

He could get some Republicans to vote for him. I estimate that 30% of his voters would be Republicans/Republican-leaning independents.

He's probably the most pro-immigration and pro-gun control human being on this planet, so that will probably hurt him amongst GOP voters. Although he does have right-wing positions on some economic issues (entitlements, school-vouchers, budget cuts, etc.), he does hold liberal positions on other economic issues (welfare, etc).

He's a centrist on economic issues.

[President Johnson]

Businessman Donald Trump (R-NY)/Governor John Kasich (R-OH): 316 EV. (47.22%)
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/HUD Secretary Julian Castro (D-TX): 207 EV. (42.78%)
Former Mayor Michael Bloomberg (I-NY)/Former Governor Jon Huntsman (I-UT): 15 EV.  (9.59%)

[RR1997]

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What's up with your obsession with a Trump/Kasich ticket? It's not going to happen.

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What's up with your obsession with a Trump/Kasich ticket? It's not going to happen.

Also, who's John Huntsman?

[RR1997]

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What's up with your obsession with a Trump/Kasich ticket? It's not going to happen.

Also, who's John Huntsman?

One of the greatest politicians in American history, and a great VP pick for Bloomberg.

[President Johnson]

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What's up with your obsession with a Trump/Kasich ticket? It's not going to happen.

Wouldn't make a difference with Haley or someone elese unless he/she is total failure.

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What's up with your obsession with a Trump/Kasich ticket? It's not going to happen.

Also, who's John Huntsman?

One of the greatest politicians in American history, and a great VP pick for Bloomberg.

I think you're thinking of Jon Huntsman.

[President Johnson]

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What's up with your obsession with a Trump/Kasich ticket? It's not going to happen.

Also, who's John Huntsman?

One of the greatest politicians in American history, and a great VP pick for Bloomberg.

I think you're thinking of Jon Huntsman.

Yeah, fixed.

[RR1997]

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What's up with your obsession with a Trump/Kasich ticket? It's not going to happen.

Also, who's John Huntsman?

One of the greatest politicians in American history, and a great VP pick for Bloomberg.

I think you're thinking of Jon Huntsman.

I just noticed his typo. I thought you were referring to the fact that Huntsman is relatively unknown to the general public.

[indysaff]

I don't see the appeal in Bloomberg, so I doubt he has any really effect in any three way race.

[Mehmentum]

Bloomberg will only run if Sanders and Trump are the nominees.

[MM876]

Bloomberg won't run unless Sanders is the nominee, and he wouldn't carry a single state. But he would make a Trump win tremendously more likely.

We are not going to be bullied by some billionaire into not nominating the guy running against the billionaires.

The big money guys have plenty of tools they can use to stop Sanders from becoming president. It's why he's unelectable, despite what useless early polls say. Bloomberg drawing center-left votes and throwing the election to Trump is only the tip of the iceberg. Just wait until he's outspent 20:1 and defined as a Stalinist in the eyes of middle America. That'll go over well.

Bernie Sanders being the Democratic nominee is a wet dream for the Republicans.

Hillary is already defined as a shrill troop-killing harpy to middle America. She will get the people who would vote for her already and not expand beyond the Democratic party. Bernie does well with Independents and some Republicans, plus he has a chance to explain his message. Hillary doesn't have a unifying message.

This isn't 1955, the Republicans call everyone a socialist/communist/stalinist/whatever the hell. It doesn't matter anymore.

[ElectionsGuy]

[Kingpoleon]

401: Trump/Rossi - 40.6%
122: Clinton/Dean - 34.3%
15: Bloomberg/King - 24.4%

Other: 0.7%