How would Biden be doing in a one-on-one with Sanders?
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Zache
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« on: February 19, 2016, 08:53:28 AM »

Let's say Clinton never ran and the DNC cleared the way for the vice president instead. How would he be faring right now, against Sanders?

He has similar 'flaws' to Clinton: he voted for the War in Iraq, he represented the corporate capital of the US as a senator, he wrote the 1993 crime bill, etc, but how much would his perceived honesty and outward likability mitigate all of that?
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2016, 08:55:22 AM »

Probably worse. Wasnt there a poll awhile ago that showed a hypothetical Sanders vs Biden matchup with Sanders doing better against Biden than Hillary?
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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2016, 09:03:23 AM »

Worse. He kind of just meanders and rambles.
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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2016, 10:05:10 AM »

Biden would have the nomination all but wrapped up by now. Infinitely better politician than Hillary.
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2016, 10:22:37 AM »

Considering his other presidential campaigns?  Probably worse.  He'd probably have made several horrible racist gaffes by now or something. 
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2016, 11:04:38 AM »

Considering his other presidential campaigns?  Probably worse.  He'd probably have made several horrible racist gaffes by now or something. 
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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2016, 01:26:07 AM »
« Edited: February 20, 2016, 01:28:19 AM by IceSpear »

Biden would have the nomination all but wrapped up by now. Infinitely better politician than Hillary.

Yes, just look at his two previous presidential runs and compare them to Hillary's, lol. And in 2008, they were both in the same contest, right? Pretty sure she cleaned his clock.

Hillary is an infinitely better politician than Biden.  It is true that Sanders is a much stronger candidate than anyone expected, and a hypothetical poll that had him trailing Clinton by ~10 points had him leading Biden by ~20 points.

However, there's a way he could be doing better. The media does not hate Biden to nearly the same degree that they hate Hillary. In fact, they kind of like him, with the media treating him as "Uncle Joe" and giving massive adoring coverage for months back in the fall. Part of that was just out of antipathy for Hillary and wanting him to run against her, but there is some personal affection for him as well. While Sanders earned much of his own support in his own right, he also no doubt massively benefitted from the media destroying Hillary's image, due to the fact that it's a zero sum game, it helped him by proxy. It's hard to quantify for sure how much of his support he would've earned without a full out media assault on his opponent though, so I'm not sure. It would probably end up being similar, but Bernie would no doubt have won Iowa.
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2016, 01:43:51 AM »

Biden is way more likeable, but he'd likely be doing worse because he wouldn't be the first female President, and neither him nor his spouse owns the party.
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