Election Odds

[© tweed]

Yeah, we aren't that friendly today for hwatever reason.

[DarthKosh]

Will dean win the nomination

Yes, unless something unforeseen happens, he is Mr. Democrat.

More like Mr. Far-Left.

Very funny.

You just keep doing this, huh?

Dean at one time may have been moderate but in the last five year (problely when decided to run for pres) he turned hard left.

[© tweed]

Will dean win the nomination

Yes, unless something unforeseen happens, he is Mr. Democrat.

More like Mr. Far-Left.

Very funny.

You just keep doing this, huh?

Dean at one time may have been moderate but in the last five year (problely when decided to run for pres) he turned hard left.

He is not hard left, his rhetoric is.  There is a difference.  I think he is to the right of Kerry.

[DarthKosh]

Will dean win the nomination

Yes, unless something unforeseen happens, he is Mr. Democrat.

More like Mr. Far-Left.

Very funny.

You just keep doing this, huh?

Dean at one time may have been moderate but in the last five year (problely when decided to run for pres) he turned hard left.

He is not hard left, his rhetoric is.  There is a difference.  I think he is to the right of Kerry.

If he was right of Kerry then Kerry would be the frontrunner not Dean.

[© tweed]

Will dean win the nomination

Yes, unless something unforeseen happens, he is Mr. Democrat.

More like Mr. Far-Left.

Very funny.

You just keep doing this, huh?

Dean at one time may have been moderate but in the last five year (problely when decided to run for pres) he turned hard left.

He is not hard left, his rhetoric is.  There is a difference.  I think he is to the right of Kerry.

If he was right of Kerry then Kerry would be the frontrunner not Dean.

Not true--Kerry voted for the war, which weakens his message.  Plus he is a "dead amn walking"...

[DarthKosh]

Will dean win the nomination

Yes, unless something unforeseen happens, he is Mr. Democrat.

More like Mr. Far-Left.

Very funny.

You just keep doing this, huh?

Dean at one time may have been moderate but in the last five year (problely when decided to run for pres) he turned hard left.

He is not hard left, his rhetoric is.  There is a difference.  I think he is to the right of Kerry.

If he was right of Kerry then Kerry would be the frontrunner not Dean.

Not true--Kerry voted for the war, which weakens his message.  Plus he is a "dead amn walking"...

That proves my point.  The only way that Dean could win the nom is that he ran a hard left campaign.

[© tweed]

Will dean win the nomination

Yes, unless something unforeseen happens, he is Mr. Democrat.

More like Mr. Far-Left.

Very funny.

You just keep doing this, huh?

Dean at one time may have been moderate but in the last five year (problely when decided to run for pres) he turned hard left.

He is not hard left, his rhetoric is.  There is a difference.  I think he is to the right of Kerry.

If he was right of Kerry then Kerry would be the frontrunner not Dean.

Not true--Kerry voted for the war, which weakens his message.  Plus he is a "dead amn walking"...

That proves my point.  The only way that Dean could win the nom is that he ran a hard left campaign.

It does?  Dean is to the right of all the Dems economically.  The major candidates, anyway.

[DarthKosh]

Will dean win the nomination

Yes, unless something unforeseen happens, he is Mr. Democrat.

More like Mr. Far-Left.

Very funny.

You just keep doing this, huh?

Dean at one time may have been moderate but in the last five year (problely when decided to run for pres) he turned hard left.

He is not hard left, his rhetoric is.  There is a difference.  I think he is to the right of Kerry.

If he was right of Kerry then Kerry would be the frontrunner not Dean.

Not true--Kerry voted for the war, which weakens his message.  Plus he is a "dead amn walking"...

That proves my point.  The only way that Dean could win the nom is that he ran a hard left campaign.

It does?  Dean is to the right of all the Dems economically.  The major candidates, anyway.

Not anymore.  It's tax increases id Dean is elected.

[jravnsbo]

Dean is hard left running in this campaign.   He wants socialized medicine, he wants TAX INCREASES on EVERYONE not just the rich.  He signed the first civil union bill instead of fighting it.

He is running ard left on antiwar message, which is way left of Kerry who voted for the war and plus Kerry is not for Tax increases on the middle class like Dean is proposing.

Plus Dean is advocating MORE regulations on business.  That is a Nader left wing idea.  Lots of specifics in thi areas, hard to discuss without in depth discussion.

[Gustaf]

Will dean win the nomination

Yes, unless something unforeseen happens, he is Mr. Democrat.

More like Mr. Far-Left.

Very funny.

You just keep doing this, huh?

Dean at one time may have been moderate but in the last five year (problely when decided to run for pres) he turned hard left.

He is not hard left, his rhetoric is.  There is a difference.  I think he is to the right of Kerry.

If he was right of Kerry then Kerry would be the frontrunner not Dean.

Not true--Kerry voted for the war, which weakens his message.  Plus he is a "dead amn walking"...

That proves my point.  The only way that Dean could win the nom is that he ran a hard left campaign.

It does?  Dean is to the right of all the Dems economically.  The major candidates, anyway.

Not anymore.  It's tax increases id Dean is elected.

Are you guys biulding another pyramid?

[DarthKosh]

Will dean win the nomination

Yes, unless something unforeseen happens, he is Mr. Democrat.

More like Mr. Far-Left.

Very funny.

You just keep doing this, huh?

Dean at one time may have been moderate but in the last five year (problely when decided to run for pres) he turned hard left.

He is not hard left, his rhetoric is.  There is a difference.  I think he is to the right of Kerry.

If he was right of Kerry then Kerry would be the frontrunner not Dean.

Not true--Kerry voted for the war, which weakens his message.  Plus he is a "dead amn walking"...

That proves my point.  The only way that Dean could win the nom is that he ran a hard left campaign.

It does?  Dean is to the right of all the Dems economically.  The major candidates, anyway.

Not anymore.  It's tax increases id Dean is elected.

Are you guys biulding another pyramid?

not intentionally.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Do any of you actually realise what Hard Left actually is?(see: www.pcf.fr, www.pds.de)

[DarthKosh]

Do any of you actually realise what Hard Left actually is?(see: www.pcf.fr, www.pds.de)

I visit sites like the democratic underground and the daily kos.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

How is it possible to say that studenty left-liberals are anything like Officially HARD LINE  COMMUNIST/MARXIST-LENINIST/STALINIST organisations?

[DarthKosh]

How is it possible to say that studenty left-liberals are anything like Officially HARD LINE  COMMUNIST/MARXIST-LENINIST/STALINIST organisations?

I listen to them speak.

[agcatter]

We could argue all day about labels.  To me hard left is the hate spouting, knee jerk always blame America first, Bush conspiracy bunch.

Depends on your prospective.  In France, that would be just mainstream thought.  Which, BTW, is why I have no trouble letting them stew in their juices next time a foreign power goosesteps in and they fall all over themselves in a mad rush to surrender.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

You really have no idea do you?
The PCF's official program is a:

DICTATORSHIP OF THE PROLETARIET

The Hard Left is very Illiberal and is not liberal at all.

[Wakie]

How is it possible to say that studenty left-liberals are anything like Officially HARD LINE  COMMUNIST/MARXIST-LENINIST/STALINIST organisations?

I listen to them speak.

If it is fair to characterize the Hard Left as communists then it is equally fair to characterize the Hard Right as fascists.

[DarthKosh]

You really have no idea do you?
The PCF's official program is a:

DICTATORSHIP OF THE PROLETARIET

The Hard Left is very Illiberal and is not liberal at all.

Please i have seen them gather and speak.  And they sound like Stalins foot soliders.

[© tweed]

You really have no idea do you?
The PCF's official program is a:

DICTATORSHIP OF THE PROLETARIET

The Hard Left is very Illiberal and is not liberal at all.

p-r-o-l-e-t-a-r-i-a-t

[Gustaf]

You really have no idea do you?
The PCF's official program is a:

DICTATORSHIP OF THE PROLETARIET

The Hard Left is very Illiberal and is not liberal at all.

Yes! Finally some sense!

[Filuwaúrdjan]

p-r-o-l-e-t-a-r-i-a-t

It can be spelt both ways... I'm sure of this
(why did Marx use weird words? )

[DarthKosh]

p-r-o-l-e-t-a-r-i-a-t

It can be spelt both ways... I'm sure of this
(why did Marx use weird words? )

Because he wasn't on the right side of sane.

[CHRISTOPHER MICHAE]

You really have no idea do you?
The PCF's official program is a:

DICTATORSHIP OF THE PROLETARIET

The Hard Left is very Illiberal and is not liberal at all.

What's PCF?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

p-r-o-l-e-t-a-r-i-a-t

It can be spelt both ways... I'm sure of this
(why did Marx use weird words? )

Because he wasn't on the right side of sane.

Have you ever actually read anything by Marx before?
I have and Das Kapital is excellent for historical research.