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Question: What type of "revelation" would actually stop Trump on his way to the GOP Nomination?
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« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2016, 06:54:27 pm »

Nothing, his supporters are so stupid they have no idea he's a liberal so he could say anything he wants and still keep his support. Only hope is for everyone but Rubio to drop out and hope that everyone goes to him.

This post is a perfect encapsulation of why Trump is winning!

1. Derision and condescension for his supporters.
2. Junk conventional wisdom. If a candidate drops out, Rubio HAS to get their votes! Right guys?

Yes, people who support Trump should be treated like the morons they are. The angry old people saying "no government healthcare" now go "yeah, Trump said single-payer healthcare, we need this, make America great again!".

And I said the only way it COULD happen is IF they go to Rubio. Didn't say they would, just that it would be the only way. Oh well, it's going to be annoying having Hillary for at least 4 years but it'll be hard to understand how SHOCKED people will be when it happens.

I'm just glad some people are able to still see reason.
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« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2016, 06:54:39 pm »

Trump is a full on narcissist.  

All you have to do is start belittling him constantly until he flips the f**k out.  It'll probably end when he calls Hillary a c*nt on national TV.
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« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2016, 07:04:03 pm »

Nothing, his supporters are so stupid they have no idea he's a liberal so he could say anything he wants and still keep his support. Only hope is for everyone but Rubio to drop out and hope that everyone goes to him.

This post is a perfect encapsulation of why Trump is winning!

1. Derision and condescension for his supporters.
2. Junk conventional wisdom. If a candidate drops out, Rubio HAS to get their votes! Right guys?

Yes, people who support Trump should be treated like the morons they are. The angry old people saying "no government healthcare" now go "yeah, Trump said single-payer healthcare, we need this, make America great again!".

And I said the only way it COULD happen is IF they go to Rubio. Didn't say they would, just that it would be the only way. Oh well, it's going to be annoying having Hillary for at least 4 years but it'll be hard to understand how SHOCKED people will be when it happens.
Except that Trump is not only limited in support to elderly white women, you arrogant half-wit.

The people know Trump is a flip-flopper, they aren't stupid like you and your ilk think they are. They don't care anymore. I remember the people like you, the morons who backed Santorum and Newt, whining about how Romney was "not conservative" enough. Well, be careful what you wish for.

Also, they don't care about TRUE CONSERVATIVES anymore. They keep getting burnt by them. They want a leader who will tell the evangelicals, illegals, Israelis, Russians, ISIS, Liberals, and everyone else they don't like to stick it. Paul Ryan won't do that. Senator Lavenous won't do that. Trump will.

They are tired of hearing about Reagan. Most of them are old enough to remember Reagan, and they remember that the reality of Reagan was different then the narrative. To hell with Reagan, I'm glad he is dead, and I am glad the cult you and @AG_Conservative and Rick Wilson and company built around him is dead too. The people are waking up and a revolution is underway. And a revolution needs two things to be complete: dancing and a reign of terror.

And now it is our turn for terror. We are coming to take our party back. It's our party now, bitch.

This is what I mean when I say that Trump's rise has allowed people to more openly express how they "really" feel, with less fear of public condemnation.
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I just hope Trump doesn't turn into some kind of Berlusconi-esque Teflon man.
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« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2016, 07:29:54 pm »

Nothing, his supporters are so stupid they have no idea he's a liberal so he could say anything he wants and still keep his support. Only hope is for everyone but Rubio to drop out and hope that everyone goes to him.

This post is a perfect encapsulation of why Trump is winning!

1. Derision and condescension for his supporters.
2. Junk conventional wisdom. If a candidate drops out, Rubio HAS to get their votes! Right guys?

Yes, people who support Trump should be treated like the morons they are. The angry old people saying "no government healthcare" now go "yeah, Trump said single-payer healthcare, we need this, make America great again!".

And I said the only way it COULD happen is IF they go to Rubio. Didn't say they would, just that it would be the only way. Oh well, it's going to be annoying having Hillary for at least 4 years but it'll be hard to understand how SHOCKED people will be when it happens.
Except that Trump is not only limited in support to elderly white women, you arrogant half-wit.

The people know Trump is a flip-flopper, they aren't stupid like you and your ilk think they are. They don't care anymore. I remember the people like you, the morons who backed Santorum and Newt, whining about how Romney was "not conservative" enough. Well, be careful what you wish for.

Also, they don't care about TRUE CONSERVATIVES anymore. They keep getting burnt by them. They want a leader who will tell the evangelicals, illegals, Israelis, Russians, ISIS, Liberals, and everyone else they don't like to stick it. Paul Ryan won't do that. Senator Lavenous won't do that. Trump will.

They are tired of hearing about Reagan. Most of them are old enough to remember Reagan, and they remember that the reality of Reagan was different then the narrative. To hell with Reagan, I'm glad he is dead, and I am glad the cult you and @AG_Conservative and Rick Wilson and company built around him is dead too. The people are waking up and a revolution is underway. And a revolution needs two things to be complete: dancing and a reign of terror.

And now it is our turn for terror. We are coming to take our party back. It's our party now, bitch.

This is what I mean when I say that Trump's rise has allowed people to more openly express how they "really" feel, with less fear of public condemnation.

Maybe we should create a new state out of a few in the west and call it Trumpistan. Move all the Trumptards out there and they can have their own state and charge no taxes and have no minorities or foreigners allowed. No public transportation, a wall around the entire state, single payer healthcare, etc. Leave the rest of the adults to deal with the real country. Oh, and they get no government support and can't leave.
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« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2016, 08:30:52 pm »

As long as there is breath in his lungs, Trump will almost definitely win the nomination. For better or worse.

The Presidency will be a much harder task. Everything I "know" about reality says he can't do it, but Trump has made a habit of raising a middle digit to reality, turning that middle digit into a knife, and stabbing reality through the heart.
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« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2016, 08:33:41 pm »

As long as there is breath in his lungs, Trump will almost definitely win the nomination. For better or worse.

The Presidency will be a much harder task. Everything I "know" about reality says he can't do it, but Trump has made a habit of raising a middle digit to reality, turning that middle digit into a knife, and stabbing reality through the heart.

Only because too many GOP candidates treated him with kid-gloves until they realized (too late) what a threat he really was.  Had everyone gone after him last summer, he would not be where he is today. 
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« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2016, 09:20:27 pm »

Since there is a growing belief that Trump will be the nominee, what types of revelations, if any, do you think would bring him down? You can pick up to two choices.

Oh, revelations. I thought you were asking about calibers.
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« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2016, 09:47:02 pm »

Short of a criminal indictment, it would be hard to stop Trump without creating the elements needed for a brokered convention.  This is possible, but it would put the GOP in the position of (A) airing much dirty linen in public and (B) denying the candidate with the most popular support in the primaries and caucuses the nomination in favor of either someone who was rejected by the voters, or by a candidate that was "airlifted" into the convention to break a deadlock.

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« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2016, 11:14:00 pm »

Short of a criminal indictment, it would be hard to stop Trump without creating the elements needed for a brokered convention.  This is possible, but it would put the GOP in the position of (A) airing much dirty linen in public and (B) denying the candidate with the most popular support in the primaries and caucuses the nomination in favor of either someone who was rejected by the voters, or by a candidate that was "airlifted" into the convention to break a deadlock.



While I agree with you, I wasn't thinking so much about a process or even another candidate who could bring Trump down (although that warrants a separate discussion) Smiley.

The intent of the poll was to see what type of revelation (if any) would affect Trump's popularity and dissuade his supporters (i.e. To the point where Trump would start hemorrhaging support)!!
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« Reply #34 on: February 29, 2016, 08:34:17 am »

A combination of this stuff might have worked during the early states.

Now the race is national, and it's too late. Before this, Trump was having to fight like an actual politician, do retail stuff that he wasn't as good at as the others, but now the race is being fought on his own turf, the national spotlight. It's over.
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« Reply #35 on: February 29, 2016, 08:43:03 am »

Hispanics in the general election.
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« Reply #36 on: February 29, 2016, 08:43:43 am »

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« Reply #37 on: February 29, 2016, 09:33:39 am »

They are trying all the tricks.   Tax returns. .mob ties(you know when your from ny you must have ties to thr mob".   2 candidates teaming up at debates.... I mean really..
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« Reply #38 on: February 29, 2016, 09:37:10 am »

As long as there is breath in his lungs, Trump will almost definitely win the nomination. For better or worse.

The Presidency will be a much harder task. Everything I "know" about reality says he can't do it, but Trump has made a habit of raising a middle digit to reality, turning that middle digit into a knife, and stabbing reality through the heart.

The general election is going to be a lot less friendly to TRUMP
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« Reply #39 on: February 29, 2016, 09:43:02 am »

I'd like to think if during his acceptance speech at the convention, he said that his whole candidacy had been an elaborate joke, everyone who voted for him was racist and an idiot, he didn't actually want to be president, and he had just been running as a favor to Hillary Clinton, then his support might go down.

But I'm not sure. A speech like that, combined with completely dropping out of the race (but leaving his name on ballots) might just show he's REALLY not a politician, letting him beat Hillary in November.
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« Reply #40 on: February 29, 2016, 09:44:49 am »

I'd like to think if during his acceptance speech at the convention, he said that his whole candidacy had been an elaborate joke, everyone who voted for him was racist and an idiot, he didn't actually want to be president, and he had just been running as a favor to Hillary Clinton, then his support might go down.

But I'm not sure. A speech like that, combined with completely dropping out of the race (but leaving his name on ballots) might just show he's REALLY not a politician, letting him beat Hillary in November.

Well, his appeal is that he is not a politician so...
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« Reply #41 on: February 29, 2016, 09:49:41 am »

The Anti-Trump GOP (which is a clear majority of rank and file voters), completely uniting around Rubio, Cruz, or Kasich.
Which isn't going to happen in time to matter. They all have incentive to stay in and the foundation of a 2020 campaign.
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