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« on: February 29, 2016, 06:45:38 PM »

This is a really obscure question for a rather unlikely scenario. Let's say Sanders somehow beats Hillary for the Democratic nomination. Does that mean many votes that would otherwise go to Jill Stein of the Green Party and Gloria La Riva of Party for Socialism and Liberation, not to mention all of the even smaller and lesser-known third parties, might go to him?
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« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2016, 06:48:16 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: February 29, 2016, 06:55:25 PM »

Why not?
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« Reply #3 on: February 29, 2016, 06:56:32 PM »

No; Jill Stein is playing the 'conservative in socialist clothing' card on Sanders, and la Riva wasn't going anywhere anyways.
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« Reply #4 on: February 29, 2016, 06:56:40 PM »

Because people don't like to waste their votes. Third parties improving significantly are up there with electoral college ties and brokered conventions - things that are constantly speculated about every election but never actually happen.
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« Reply #5 on: February 29, 2016, 07:00:14 PM »

Because people don't like to waste their votes. Third parties improving significantly are up there with electoral college ties and brokered conventions - things that are constantly speculated about every election but never actually happen.

I think you're misreading what I'm saying. I'm suggesting that if Sanders was the nomination, some of the third party votes for leftist candidates might go to him. Similar to fusionism in the past, where Populists voted Democrat after William Jennings Bryan became the nominee.
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« Reply #6 on: February 29, 2016, 07:05:19 PM »

Because people don't like to waste their votes. Third parties improving significantly are up there with electoral college ties and brokered conventions - things that are constantly speculated about every election but never actually happen.

I think you're misreading what I'm saying. I'm suggesting that if Sanders was the nomination, some of the third party votes for leftist candidates might go to him. Similar to fusionism in the past, where Populists voted Democrat after William Jennings Bryan became the nominee.

Oh, my bad. It's possible I guess, but the votes for those parties are so small anyway that it wouldn't be very significant.
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« Reply #7 on: February 29, 2016, 07:35:53 PM »

The Green party will obviously get more votes with Hillary than with Bernie as the Democratic nominee.
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« Reply #8 on: February 29, 2016, 07:37:51 PM »

The Green party will obviously get more votes with Hillary than with Bernie as the Democratic nominee.


Because people don't like to waste their votes. Third parties improving significantly are up there with electoral college ties and brokered conventions - things that are constantly speculated about every election but never actually happen.

I think you're misreading what I'm saying. I'm suggesting that if Sanders was the nomination, some of the third party votes for leftist candidates might go to him. Similar to fusionism in the past, where Populists voted Democrat after William Jennings Bryan became the nominee.

Oh, my bad. It's possible I guess, but the votes for those parties are so small anyway that it wouldn't be very significant.
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« Reply #9 on: February 29, 2016, 07:41:06 PM »

The Green party will obviously get more votes with Hillary than with Bernie as the Democratic nominee.

Yeah, they might get 0.4% instead of 0.2%.
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« Reply #10 on: February 29, 2016, 07:42:30 PM »

Yes. This is one area where not serving as a Democrat in the Senate might help him a bit. An avowed socialist will peel votes away from parties like the Peace and Freedom Party.
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