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« on: March 03, 2016, 11:35:12 pm »

Ayotte's on track to crush and keep Scalia's seat open 4 more years.

The GOP will likely get away with keeping the seat vacant for a year without much if any consequences, but you're dreaming if you think they can get away with it for 5. Not only because of the fact that it is ridiculous on its face, but because pretty much everyone has overtly said "the next president should fill the vacancy." There's no room to maneuver around that, and the media massacre would be endless. It would be like if they never re-opened the government in 2013.

When something's gone on for a year, it's the new normal. It'll quite easily go on for 5, especially after the significant boost in our ranks we will get in January 2019. Maybe it'll even be significant enough the media will realize our constituency likes the gridlock, though they've failed to grasp that to date.

When will you finally fill the seat? Yes, Ginsburg will get out soon enough, but still, wouldn't you rather have a reliable fifth vote for conservatism rather than rely on Kennedy?  If the sixty-vote rule is holding things up, then just abolish it for the scalia/ginsburg replacement votes and bring it back immediately afterward.

Edit: And don't assume Hillary's going to win. Just ask Dukakis, McCain, and Romney about the great reliability of early GE Polls. And if she does, doesn't that mean America wants a liberal (or at least moderate) regime?
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« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2016, 11:45:15 pm »

Ayotte's on track to crush and keep Scalia's seat open 4 more years.

The GOP will likely get away with keeping the seat vacant for a year without much if any consequences, but you're dreaming if you think they can get away with it for 5. Not only because of the fact that it is ridiculous on its face, but because pretty much everyone has overtly said "the next president should fill the vacancy." There's no room to maneuver around that, and the media massacre would be endless. It would be like if they never re-opened the government in 2013.

When something's gone on for a year, it's the new normal. It'll quite easily go on for 5, especially after the significant boost in our ranks we will get in January 2019. Maybe it'll even be significant enough the media will realize our constituency likes the gridlock, though they've failed to grasp that to date.

When will you finally fill the seat? Yes, Ginsburg will get out soon enough, but still, wouldn't you rather have a reliable fifth vote for conservatism rather than rely on Kennedy?  If the sixty-vote rule is holding things up, then just abolish it for the scalia/ginsburg replacement votes and bring it back immediately afterward.

The seat (and any other vacancies that come up) will most likely only be filled when the President and the Senate majority are from the same party. There is perhaps some possibility for leeway if the numbers at 51-49 or something, or if a President nominates someone they are not in ideological agreement with (like Nixon nominating Blackmun, or Bush nominating Souter), but these scenarios are not particularly likely. (To clarify, getting past a 51-49 majority is unlikely, not that majority coming about).

At the moment, it seems that there is some chance of the President and Senate majority being from the same party in January 2017, but that this is unlikely; and if this does not take place, it seems there will be no correspondence for many years.

See my edit below


Edit: And don't assume Hillary's going to win. Just ask Dukakis, McCain, and Romney about the great reliability of early GE Polls. And if she does, doesn't that mean America wants a liberal (or at least moderate) regime, including in the SCOTUS?
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