MI-Mitchell/FOX 2 Detroit: Clinton+18

[Tender Branson]

55% Clinton
37% Sanders

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http://www.fox2detroit.com/news/elections-2016/100613349-story

[The Other Castro]

Well at this rate, Sanders should win by 2.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

It's also Mitchell...

[YPestis25]

It's also Mitchell...

Yeah. Hopefully PPP polls again so we can compare any swing to their last poll.

[Ebsy]

A Clinton win of any size in Michigan dooms Sanders' campaign.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

A Clinton win of any size in Michigan dooms Sanders' campaign.

Under 10 but mostly within 5 would be great for him!

[Fusionmunster]

A Clinton win of any size in Michigan dooms Sanders' campaign.

Under 10 but mostly within 5 would be great for him!

Sanders is down 197 delegates, any loss for him is terrible. He literally can not afford to loose anywhere.

[Fusionmunster]

Well at this rate, Sanders should win by 2.

At this rate Hillary should win by 8.

[Shadows]

A Clinton win of any size in Michigan dooms Sanders' campaign.

Under 10 but mostly within 5 would be great for him!

Sanders is down 197 delegates, any loss for him is terrible. He literally can not afford to loose anywhere.

Untrue. He can loose 10 more states & loose some states by 40% & still win the nomination provided he gets his series of small states & win CA, PA by a decent margin.

Loosing a state & winning a state in meaningless for a narrow margin. Clinton for 46 Delegates to 45 Delegates for Sanders in Massachusetts.

A win is a big psychological, momentum & perception boost but delegate wise it won't make a huge difference if he got 48-49% or 51-52% of the votes.

And he is 195 Delegates down (including SC n stuff). Wiki & Huffington sucks, I did the numbers from Green Papers

[Shadows]

Well at this rate, Sanders should win by 2.

At this rate Hillary should win by 8.

I didn't want to say it to not jinx it - Let Hillhacks be cheerful - But it's Landline only!

[Fusionmunster]

Well at this rate, Sanders should win by 2.

At this rate Hillary should win by 8.

I didn't want to say it to not jinx it - Let Hillhacks be cheerful - But it's Landline only!

Its also not a great pollster, and 1 day polling isnt something I have a high opinion of.

[Fusionmunster]

A Clinton win of any size in Michigan dooms Sanders' campaign.

Under 10 but mostly within 5 would be great for him!

Sanders is down 197 delegates, any loss for him is terrible. He literally can not afford to loose anywhere.

Untrue. He can loose 10 more states & loose some states by 40% & still win the nomination provided he gets his series of small states & win CA, PA by a decent margin.

Loosing a state & winning a state in meaningless for a narrow margin. Clinton for 46 Delegates to 45 Delegates for Sanders in Massachusetts.

A win is a big psychological, momentum & perception boost but delegate wise it won't make a huge difference if he got 48-49% or 51-52% of the votes.

And he is 195 Delegates down (including SC n stuff). Wiki & Huffington sucks, I did the numbers from Green Papers

How does he win? Genuinely curious.

[Shadows]

Michigan has too many Blacks for Sanders to have a chance there.

Sanders won the Black Vote by a big margin in MN & Michigan is not a big Black State however people would like to project it  - Overall it is around 11-12-13-14% odd so the Dem Primary could see it cross 20%, but not a 50 or a 65% like people would like to believe

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Michigan has too many Blacks for Sanders to have a chance there.

Sanders won the Black Vote by a big margin in MN & Michigan is not a big Black State however people would like to project it  - Overall it is around 11-12-13-14% odd so the Dem Primary could see it cross 20%, but not a 50 or a 65% like people would like to believe

You're suggesting comparing a caucus with a primary? Also we're looking at the democratic primary electorate, not the state-wide composition. Thanks to 2008's shenanigans, we've no idea what that electorate will look like.

So far, Mitchell has produced the outliers, and you should NEVER trust the MI polling industry, whether you like the results or not.

[A Perez]

Well at this rate, Sanders should win by 2.

Mitchell expects the lead to hold. Don't make ignorant comments. Trends are not always constant.

[A Perez]

Well at this rate, Sanders should win by 2.

At this rate Hillary should win by 8.

Another ignorant comment. Polls are not a physical phenomenon like gravity, that has a "rate". Can you stop speculating about "rate"?

[Mehmentum]

Just goes to show that if Sanders massively outspends Clinton, he can make the race within 20 points.

[Fusionmunster]

Well at this rate, Sanders should win by 2.

At this rate Hillary should win by 8.

Another ignorant comment. Polls are not a physical phenomenon like gravity, that has a "rate". Can you stop speculating about "rate"?

I was just playing along, I know thats not how polling works. I suspect Castro knows that too.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Just goes to show that if Sanders massively outspends Clinton, he can make the race within 20 points.

Lol, indeed. Sensible and sustainable strategy spends millions to get a distant second-place.

[Shadows]

Michigan has too many Blacks for Sanders to have a chance there.

Sanders won the Black Vote by a big margin in MN & Michigan is not a big Black State however people would like to project it  - Overall it is around 11-12-13-14% odd so the Dem Primary could see it cross 20%, but not a 50 or a 65% like people would like to believe

You're suggesting comparing a caucus with a primary? Also we're looking at the democratic primary electorate, not the state-wide composition. Thanks to 2008's shenanigans, we've no idea what that electorate will look like.

So far, Mitchell has produced the outliers, and you should NEVER trust the MI polling industry, whether you like the results or not.

I already said that if you have 12% Black in a state, you're likely to have greater than 20% in Dem primary.

And I don't get all of a sudden why on earth Hillary supporters want to dis-regard the results of a caucus after 2 losses when she won Iowa & Nevada! Weird logic & makes no-sense.

So black voters voted for Bernie in Minn just because it was a caucus or they were persuaded otherwise

[Shadows]

Just goes to show that if Sanders massively outspends Clinton, he can make the race within 20 points.

Lol, indeed. Sensible and sustainable strategy spends millions to get a distant second-place.

Again weird comments & weird assumptions - Sanders cut 6 stastes out of Super Tuesday so he is far likely than Hillary to spend money if he has a good chance. He barely campaigned in LA & MS furthur proving it.

All LEGITIMATE polls suggest that Hillary is barely ahead by 10%, so no reason not to SPEND when he can WIN

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Just goes to show that if Sanders massively outspends Clinton, he can make the race within 20 points.

Lol, indeed. Sensible and sustainable strategy spends millions to get a distant second-place.

Again weird comments & weird assumptions - Sanders cut 6 stastes out of Super Tuesday so he is far likely than Hillary to spend money if he has a good chance. He barely campaigned in LA & MS furthur proving it.

All LEGITIMATE polls suggest that Hillary is barely ahead by 10%, so no reason not to SPEND when he can WIN

What's the legitimate poll?

[Fusionmunster]

Just goes to show that if Sanders massively outspends Clinton, he can make the race within 20 points.

Lol, indeed. Sensible and sustainable strategy spends millions to get a distant second-place.

Again weird comments & weird assumptions - Sanders cut 6 stastes out of Super Tuesday so he is far likely than Hillary to spend money if he has a good chance. He barely campaigned in LA & MS furthur proving it.

All LEGITIMATE polls suggest that Hillary is barely ahead by 10%, so no reason not to SPEND when he can WIN

What's the legitimate poll?

A PPP poll done a month ago showing Hillary up 10 is what I'm assuming Shadow is refering to.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Just goes to show that if Sanders massively outspends Clinton, he can make the race within 20 points.

Lol, indeed. Sensible and sustainable strategy spends millions to get a distant second-place.

It almost worked for Rubio.

[Shadows]

Just goes to show that if Sanders massively outspends Clinton, he can make the race within 20 points.

Lol, indeed. Sensible and sustainable strategy spends millions to get a distant second-place.

Again weird comments & weird assumptions - Sanders cut 6 stastes out of Super Tuesday so he is far likely than Hillary to spend money if he has a good chance. He barely campaigned in LA & MS furthur proving it.

All LEGITIMATE polls suggest that Hillary is barely ahead by 10%, so no reason not to SPEND when he can WIN

What's the legitimate poll?

PPP & ARG had their polls in mid or 3rd week of Feb. PPP had Clinton leading 10%, ARG had her leading 13%. None of them are pro-Sanders so I would take it @ 10-15% as the margin