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« on: March 10, 2016, 03:32:56 pm »
« edited: March 10, 2016, 03:55:32 pm by #TheShadowyAbyss »

I don't think it should be banned, women should be allowed to wear it if they want as long as it is their choice and not forced upon them. On my Muslim half of my family, most of the woman (around 60-70%) don't even wear hijab and only one of them wears the full niqab, the rest wear the regular hijab.


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The Egyptian parliament is drafting a law banning women from wearing the niqab veil. The ban will apply to wearing the clothing in public places and government institutions, it has been reported.

The full-face veil is worn by some followers of Islam and typically covers all of the wearer’s face other than their eyes. The clothing is common in Egypt which is a predominantly Muslim country.

MP Amna Nosseir, professor of comparative jurisprudence at Al-Azhar University, who has backed the ban, said that wearing the veil is not a requirement of Islam and in fact has non-Islamic origins. She has argued that it is a Jewish tradition which appeared in the Arabian Peninsula prior to Islam and that a variety of Quran passages contradict its use. Instead, she has advocated that the Quran calls for modest clothing and covered hair, but does not require facial covering.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/egypt-drafts-bill-to-ban-niqab-veil-in-public-places-a6920701.html
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« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2016, 05:11:06 pm »

What's supposed to be the penalty for wearing the niqab? Considering the current state of affairs in Egypt, I wouldn't be suprised that women who don't adhere to the ban receive the death penalty. Tongue
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2016, 03:18:25 am »

Obviously should be banned.
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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2016, 03:37:16 am »

Obviously should be banned.

What punishment, would you say, is appropriate for a woman who decides to wear the niqab in public?
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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2016, 08:31:16 am »

I like how they're spinning it - "well actually, you know the Jews had veils first". Lmao.

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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2016, 09:06:32 am »

An Arab leader using "da evil Joos" as a rallying cry to get his people to do something?  Say it ain't so!
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2016, 02:52:41 pm »

This is a terrible idea on so many levels. It's like Sisi is trying to instigate an Islamist uprising that will overthrow him and lead to a regime 1000 times worse than Morsi's.
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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2016, 04:31:17 am »

Obviously should be banned.

What punishment, would you say, is appropriate for a woman who decides to wear the niqab in public?

Treated as running around nude or something. The husband should also be punished, proabably with a fine the first time then a gradual escalation of warnings until jail time.
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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2016, 01:16:32 pm »

I don't actually support a ban but I think being made to take it off would be an appropriate punishment.
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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2016, 11:11:51 pm »

Obviously should be banned.

What punishment, would you say, is appropriate for a woman who decides to wear the niqab in public?

Treated as running around nude or something. The husband should also be punished, proabably with a fine the first time then a gradual escalation of warnings until jail time.

What punishment is appropriate for the husband of a (perhaps comparatively rare, but existent) woman who decides on her own initiative and over his disapproval to wear the niqab in public?

I don't actually support a ban but I think being made to take it off would be an appropriate punishment.

What punishment is appropriate for a woman who keeps putting it on again?
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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2016, 11:56:28 pm »

This is a terrible idea on so many levels. It's like Sisi is trying to instigate an Islamist uprising that will overthrow him and lead to a regime 1000 times worse than Morsi's.

Yes, sexists are going to be angry if oppressive sexist clothing is banned. Why are you making excuses for them? Just because it will piss some awful people off doesnt mean its not the right thing to do.
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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2016, 01:15:18 am »

This is a terrible idea on so many levels. It's like Sisi is trying to instigate an Islamist uprising that will overthrow him and lead to a regime 1000 times worse than Morsi's.

Yes, sexists are going to be angry if oppressive sexist clothing is banned. Why are you making excuses for them? Just because it will piss some awful people off doesnt mean its not the right thing to do.

What do you think the appropriate legal penalty is for women who wear oppressive sexist clothing?
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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2016, 04:36:06 am »

Divorce or emancipation?
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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2016, 02:59:45 pm »

Egyptian law ban marriages between Muslim women and non-Muslim men, and you people think that this is the great attack on their human rights?
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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2016, 11:41:08 pm »

Did Stephen Harper recently move to Egypt?
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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2016, 11:50:06 pm »

inb4 Islamophobia

Given Egypt's current..... situation, how is enforceable is this?
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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2016, 02:24:55 am »

Divorce or emancipation?

Again, that assumes no Egyptian woman does this voluntarily. I don't think that's a remotely safe assumption. Of course anybody forcing his wife or daughter to dress a specific way against her will should be punished for that.
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« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2016, 02:39:20 am »

but what about the eyeholes
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