Can superdelegates still change votes if a candidate reaches no. for nomination?
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« on: March 28, 2016, 06:10:54 AM »

So convoluted title but I was curious and an trying to make sense of all of this.

Say, Hillary wins the nomination in April hitting the magic number 2,383 via pledged and unpledged delegates. She becomes the presumptive nominee.

Sanders still stays in the race.

As I understand, superdelegates can change their vote anytime, so hypothetically if they all magically vote for Bernie in the convention, he can still win the nomination even if a presumptive nominee has been declared? Or once a presumptive nominee has amassed enough votes, he/she stays as the nominee till the convention makes it official?








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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2016, 10:07:27 AM »

There is no nominee until a majority of the delegates vote for one at the convention. Superdelegates are not bound and their vote only counts when cast at the convention. Until then it is technically just talk.
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2016, 07:24:38 AM »

So convoluted title but I was curious and an trying to make sense of all of this.

Say, Hillary wins the nomination in April hitting the magic number 2,383 via pledged and unpledged delegates. She becomes the presumptive nominee.

Sanders still stays in the race.

As I understand, superdelegates can change their vote anytime, so hypothetically if they all magically vote for Bernie in the convention, he can still win the nomination even if a presumptive nominee has been declared? Or once a presumptive nominee has amassed enough votes, he/she stays as the nominee till the convention makes it official?










You use the words "presumptive" and "official" which suggests you already know the answer.
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2016, 07:55:33 AM »

Yes, and they frequently do.  See 2008.
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« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2016, 06:25:06 PM »

If RFK would have lived and certainly Teddy Kennedy wanted that to happen.  But, not today. Party leaders like Obama, Clinton & Castro are the Dem nominees and nothing will change that.
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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2016, 07:13:33 AM »
« Edited: May 23, 2016, 07:16:20 AM by Oldiesfreak1854 »

If RFK would have lived and certainly Teddy Kennedy wanted that to happen.  But, not today. Party leaders like Obama, Clinton & Castro are the Dem nominees and nothing will change that.
Bobby Kennedy wouldn't have gotten the nomination even if he'd lived.  Primaries were little more than beauty pageants then and had little bearing on the nomination.  Humphrey didn't even enter any primaries or caucuses that year, and he still got it because he had the support of the party bosses.  At that time, that was the only thing that mattered.
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