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« Reply #1800 on: August 27, 2017, 11:47:13 am »
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Kasich denies Kasich-Hickenlooper:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/kasich-2020-run-dem-hickenlooper-answer-no-n796356

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“Look, ‘Kasich-Hickenlooper,’ first of all, you couldn’t pronounce it and second of all, you couldn’t fit it on a bumper sticker,” Kasich said on Sunday’s “Meet The Press.”

When host Chuck Todd pointed out that those words weren’t a denial, Kasich flatly said, “the answer is ‘no,’ okay.”

Biden writes an op/ed in The Atlantic in which he says that Trump “has emboldened white supremacists with messages of comfort and support.”

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/08/joe-biden-after-charlottesville/538128/

And Julian Castro calls Trump a pendejo over the Arpaio pardon:

https://twitter.com/JulianCastro/status/901244569911734273
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« Reply #1801 on: August 27, 2017, 04:52:44 pm »
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And Julian Castro calls Trump a pendejo over the Arpaio pardon:

https://twitter.com/JulianCastro/status/901244569911734273


I was pretty sure Castro didn't even speak Spanish?
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« Reply #1802 on: August 27, 2017, 05:27:49 pm »
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And Julian Castro calls Trump a pendejo over the Arpaio pardon:

https://twitter.com/JulianCastro/status/901244569911734273


I was pretty sure Castro didn't even speak Spanish?

Shh, he has to appeal to Hispanics.
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« Reply #1803 on: August 27, 2017, 09:42:47 pm »
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And Julian Castro calls Trump a pendejo over the Arpaio pardon:

https://twitter.com/JulianCastro/status/901244569911734273


I was pretty sure Castro didn't even speak Spanish?

Shoot, this was a word that I didn't even realize I knew in Spanish, that I allegedly spoke to an Ex-GF back in '95 after we had an argument over the phone a few hours after we came home from going to a strip-club down the road and I had apparently consumed way too much Whiskey.

So, idk about Julian's fluency in Spanish, but pretty sure he is much more fluent than myself, even although I had a year of College Spanish in my Mid '20s, and learned tons more Spanish working with a majority Latino workforce in Houston Texas in the early 2010s...

He's basically "calling a dog a dog" using a pejorative nickname/term in Spanish, where frequently among Mexican-Americans using nicknames are common as descriptive terms to refer to individuals in social circles (Frequently not in a pejorative sense). I had a couple Spanish language nicknames among the 200 people I worked with in Houston, that were heavily Latino.

One referenced the color of my skin (Red) because I have Rosacea which is very common among people of Northern European Ancestry, and another where I was called "The Peoples Boss"....

Nicknames are not unusual among Spanish speakers in Texas, and in fact in Mexico Trump's "nickname" well before the 2016 GE was Payaso....

I'm sure that calling Trump a Pendejo or a Payaso, is politically speaking using relatively soft gloves in the event he is preparing for a major WWE style boxing round to go "toe-to-toe" with Trump.

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« Reply #1804 on: August 28, 2017, 03:20:55 pm »
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More Franken:

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2017/08/27/talking-points-sen-al-franken-state-fair/

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Senator Franken said, “So that is so flattering to hear that but that is nothing I want to do. I want to run for re-election. I want to represent Minnesota. I love my job and I want to represent Minnesota in the Senate.”

The story says that Klobuchar also "brushed aside" talk of running for president, but doesn't provide the exact quote.  Without a quote being given, I'm going to assume that it was the kind of non-denial denial she's given other times that she's been asked.
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« Reply #1805 on: August 28, 2017, 03:24:28 pm »
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"Everyone's running for president in 2020":

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/everyone-s-running-president-2020-n796116


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« Reply #1806 on: August 28, 2017, 03:41:47 pm »
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"Everyone's running for president in 2020"

Can confirm. I have had seven Draft PACs launched in my name already even though I will never be constitutionally eligible. I have also rented condos in Iowa and New Hampshire, like everyone else.
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« Reply #1807 on: August 28, 2017, 05:00:16 pm »
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« Reply #1808 on: August 28, 2017, 07:47:23 pm »
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« Reply #1809 on: August 28, 2017, 08:29:03 pm »
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« Reply #1810 on: August 28, 2017, 10:45:21 pm »
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This story says that (shocker!) many of the likely 2020 Dem. candidates who claim to not yet be thinking about 2020 are lying, and are in fact holding presidential strategy sessions with aides and looking at campaign hires:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/28/2020-democrats-new-hampshire-garcetti-242121?lo=ap_f1

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Behind the scenes, big donors have been getting chased nonstop by candidates who like to deny that they’re anywhere near thinking about being candidates. Strategy sessions are quietly being held. Preliminary calls are going out about potential staff hires. That’s normal, though a little accelerated.

Also, here's Garcetti during his trip to NH:

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A man at one of the stops told Garcetti, after the obligatory cellphone photo: “Come back sometime.”

“I will,” the mayor said.

“Maybe when you run for president.”

“Maybe. We’ll see.”

By the next stop, Garcetti had shifted. Come back soon, a man told him as he headed for the car to the airport for the flight home.

“I will,” he said.
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« Reply #1811 on: August 29, 2017, 03:41:33 pm »
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It is a gross misunderstanding of Trump to believe that his win means anyone run for President and win now.
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« Reply #1812 on: August 30, 2017, 08:35:11 am »
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I don't know what Garcetti is thinking he is a quintessential big city liberal 'coastal elite' probably the worst kind of candidate for WWC voters.
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« Reply #1813 on: August 30, 2017, 02:48:56 pm »
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Buttigieg in Iowa.
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« Reply #1814 on: August 30, 2017, 03:15:12 pm »
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Idk if Garcetti is capable of winning, but I wouldn't mind him running if only because the issues he's championed as mayor (transit, homelessness, housing affordability) are things I wished Democrats talked more about. I think it's also worth pointing out that LA's definitely more of a working-class city than people from the outside think it is, and it's dealt with a lot of the same issues Rust Belt cities have. (LA also has the largest manufacturing sector in the country fwiw...)
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« Reply #1815 on: August 30, 2017, 07:54:52 pm »
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Idk if Garcetti is capable of winning, but I wouldn't mind him running if only because the issues he's championed as mayor (transit, homelessness, housing affordability) are things I wished Democrats talked more about. I think it's also worth pointing out that LA's definitely more of a working-class city than people from the outside think it is, and it's dealt with a lot of the same issues Rust Belt cities have. (LA also has the largest manufacturing sector in the country fwiw...)

I like Garcetti, and wouldn't mind him running, basically for the same reasons you've described. If we have to have one big city mayor in the race, better him than De Blasio.
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« Reply #1816 on: August 30, 2017, 11:58:39 pm »
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It is a gross misunderstanding of Trump to believe that his win means anyone run for President and win now.

I believe it's more along the lines tha they believe running against him (or any GOP candidate) after 4 years of the Incompetent and Terrifying Hate Circus means it will be very easy to win the Presidency with the Dem nomination. (I don't completely agree, but can see why they'd think that.)
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« Reply #1817 on: August 31, 2017, 08:20:05 am »
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Kamala Harris announces her support for Sanders' Single Payer Medicare bill. Possible move to appeal with progressives better in 2020?
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« Reply #1818 on: August 31, 2017, 01:54:38 pm »
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Kamala Harris announces her support for Sanders' Single Payer Medicare bill. Possible move to appeal with progressives better in 2020?
Definite move. She's almost certainly running, and it least senses which direction the wind of the party is blowing, unlike, say, Booker.
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« Reply #1819 on: August 31, 2017, 04:37:03 pm »
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Does Hillary Clinton see an opening in 2020? - Chicago Tribune
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« Reply #1820 on: August 31, 2017, 04:48:00 pm »
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Bernie Sanders set to hold two political events in New Hampshire over Labor Day weekend

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/08/31/bernie-sanders-set-to-hold-two-political-events-in-new-hampshire-over-labor-day-weekend/23192734/
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« Reply #1821 on: August 31, 2017, 07:00:31 pm »
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This is the sixth year in a row he's keynoted the Labor Day Breakfast. You'd think that they'd get bored.
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« Reply #1822 on: August 31, 2017, 11:32:23 pm »
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When Garcetti was in New Hampshire, he also said that the 2020 Dem. primary electorate will have plenty of options (which I guess could be taken as a hint that he's open to being such an option):

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/08/31/democrats-2020-sanders-warren-biden-242189

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No one is getting a cleared field the way Clinton — with the exception of a bid by Sanders that few took seriously at first — did.

“Not only will candidates not stand for it, I think the American people won’t stand for it again,” Garcetti said. “They want options. They don’t want to be told who to vote for."

That article also talks about how the most well known 2020 prospects (Biden, Sanders, and Warren) are all over 70, and that this is a problem for the younger candidates.  I really don't think being unknown right now is any kind of deal killer.  Having early name recognition does offer some advantage in the primaries, but it's not like name recognition is some fixed thing.  There will certainly be some candidates who are unknown to most voters now, who will become known within the next three years.

And when they try to extend that name recognition argument to the general election as well, it becomes downright ridiculous:

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Then there’s everyone else looking at a White House run who could embody a new start, separate from the Washington and political establishment that repel voters. But they’re virtually unknown, and they’d be running against the most famous man in the world who’s proved he can dominate every news cycle.

Why on Earth would present day lack of name recognition (in 2017) be some kind of liability in the general election in 2020?  Anyone who wins the Democratic nomination will, as a consequence of running and winning the Democratic nomination for president, become world-famous, with nearly 100% name recognition among American voters by the time they've clinched the nomination.  This argument strikes me as really dumb.
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« Reply #1823 on: September 01, 2017, 08:12:39 am »
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« Reply #1824 on: September 01, 2017, 03:45:26 pm »
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This is the sixth year in a row he's keynoted the Labor Day Breakfast. You'd think that they'd get bored.

I mean at this rate, they can probably quote back his entire speech.

Ugh, Ryan. Go Murphy.
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