The “Who is running in 2020?” tea leaves thread

[McGovernForPrez]

I'm kind of interested in Warren as the nominee now. I don't know. I think she's a good match to take on the President one on one. She won't have to tip toe nearly as much as the 2016 nominee because all he can do is call her Pocahontas.

I think it helps to make her angry rhetoric more pallatable. Her allows her to tap into a softer warmer side that she'll desperately need to win. I think it'll help combat the sexism she'll be facing. I wasn't a big fan of her running despite liking her positions, but I might've changed my mind.

Oh yeah. She'll lose because the whole country is sexist

Not saying it'll be her only problem but it could easily knock off a few points from her.

[TheSaint250]

I'm kind of interested in Warren as the nominee now. I don't know. I think she's a good match to take on the President one on one. She won't have to tip toe nearly as much as the 2016 nominee because all he can do is call her Pocahontas.

I think it helps to make her angry rhetoric more pallatable. Her allows her to tap into a softer warmer side that she'll desperately need to win. I think it'll help combat the sexism she'll be facing. I wasn't a big fan of her running despite liking her positions, but I might've changed my mind.

Oh yeah. She'll lose because the whole country is sexist

Not saying it'll be her only problem but it could easily knock off a few points from her.

It wont

[Kringla Heimsins]

I'm kind of interested in Warren as the nominee now. I don't know. I think she's a good match to take on the President one on one. She won't have to tip toe nearly as much as the 2016 nominee because all he can do is call her Pocahontas.

I think it helps to make her angry rhetoric more pallatable. Her allows her to tap into a softer warmer side that she'll desperately need to win. I think it'll help combat the sexism she'll be facing. I wasn't a big fan of her running despite liking her positions, but I might've changed my mind.

Oh yeah. She'll lose because the whole country is sexist

Not saying it'll be her only problem but it could easily knock off a few points from her.

It wont

Congrats on your ability to know what every American is thinking, even subconsciously.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Warren's also officially cosponsored Sanders' Medicare for All bill.

[Alabama_Indy10]

I'm kind of interested in Warren as the nominee now. I don't know. I think she's a good match to take on the President one on one. She won't have to tip toe nearly as much as the 2016 nominee because all he can do is call her Pocahontas.

I think it helps to make her angry rhetoric more pallatable. Her allows her to tap into a softer warmer side that she'll desperately need to win. I think it'll help combat the sexism she'll be facing. I wasn't a big fan of her running despite liking her positions, but I might've changed my mind.

Oh yeah. She'll lose because the whole country is sexist

Not saying it'll be her only problem but it could easily knock off a few points from her.

It wont

Congrats on your ability to know what every American is thinking, even subconsciously.

McGovern says the US is subconsciously sexist. Are you congratulating him?

[Beet]

Middle America is sexist. A plurality of America did vote for the most qualified candidate, regardless of genitals.

[Alabama_Indy10]

Middle America is sexist. A plurality of America did vote for the most qualified candidate, regardless of genitals.

They're not sexist. They just don't like Hillary Rotten Clinton.

[The Other Castro]

Chris Murphy is preparing a Medicare buy-in type program as an alternative to Sanders' plan.

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The fact that the more moderate Democratic position in 2020 is still going to be this kind of major expansion in Medicare should tell you something about what the eventual nominee is going to be like.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/07/murphy-democrats-rising-star-healthcare-bernie-sanders-242455

[Kamala]

I'm really glad there's finally a fresh, male perspective telling me that sexism is dead in America.

[TheSaint250]

Middle America is sexist. A plurality of America did vote for the most qualified candidate, regardless of genitals.

I assume you have proof.

[Alabama_Indy10]

I'm really glad there's finally a fresh, male perspective telling me that sexism is dead in America.

I'm not saying sexism is dead because it's not.. But sexism being the cause of Hillary's defeat? Come on.. The Left has came up with better excuses than that already.

[Kamala]

I'm really glad there's finally a fresh, male perspective telling me that sexism is dead in America.

I'm not saying sexism is dead because it's not.. But sexism being the cause of Hillary's defeat? Come on.. The Left has came up with better excuses than that already.

Hillary's defeat was so tight that literally any one of a dozen factors, sexism included, could be identified as the cause.

[Alabama_Indy10]

I'm really glad there's finally a fresh, male perspective telling me that sexism is dead in America.

I'm not saying sexism is dead because it's not.. But sexism being the cause of Hillary's defeat? Come on.. The Left has came up with better excuses than that already.

Hillary's defeat was so tight that literally any one of a dozen factors, sexism included, could be identified as the cause.

Sexism is not the most credible argument for her loss

[Kamala]

I'm really glad there's finally a fresh, male perspective telling me that sexism is dead in America.

I'm not saying sexism is dead because it's not.. But sexism being the cause of Hillary's defeat? Come on.. The Left has came up with better excuses than that already.

Hillary's defeat was so tight that literally any one of a dozen factors, sexism included, could be identified as the cause.

Sexism is not the most credible argument for her loss

I think it's a very important factor to acknowledge, not pooh-pooh it as "ridiculous leftists." Sexism isn't just "I won't vote for a woman" or "Women have periods and therefore unstable," its also a subconscious changing of standards. Trump was a scandal monster, but he was still not as bad as "Crooked Hillary," who wasn't even tried with any crime.

Hillary had to be an angel and then some in order to be considered adequate, Donald could be a brute and be considered a strong leader. 

Anyway, I don't want to relitigate the election.

[Alabama_Indy10]

I'm really glad there's finally a fresh, male perspective telling me that sexism is dead in America.

I'm not saying sexism is dead because it's not.. But sexism being the cause of Hillary's defeat? Come on.. The Left has came up with better excuses than that already.

Hillary's defeat was so tight that literally any one of a dozen factors, sexism included, could be identified as the cause.

Sexism is not the most credible argument for her loss

I think it's a very important factor to acknowledge, not pooh-pooh it as "ridiculous leftists." Sexism isn't just "I won't vote for a woman" or "Women have periods and therefore unstable," its also a subconscious changing of standards. Trump was a scandal monster, but he was still not as bad as "Crooked Hillary," who wasn't even tried with any crime.

Hillary had to be an angel and then some in order to be considered adequate, Donald could be a brute and be considered a strong leader. 

Anyway, I don't want to relitigate the election.

Should you have to be tried for a crime to be considered crooked?? Luther Strange hasn't been charged with a crime and he's crooked as hell!

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I'm really glad there's finally a fresh, male perspective telling me that sexism is dead in America.

I'm not saying sexism is dead because it's not.. But sexism being the cause of Hillary's defeat? Come on.. The Left has came up with better excuses than that already.

Hillary's defeat was so tight that literally any one of a dozen factors, sexism included, could be identified as the cause.

This wasn't 2000, where you could blame things like one sigh from Gore.

[McGovernForPrez]

Middle America is sexist. A plurality of America did vote for the most qualified candidate, regardless of genitals.

They're not sexist. They just don't like Hillary Rotten Clinton.

When I referred to sexism I really wasn't trying to say Hillary lost solely because of it. My real point is that it subconsciously contributed to her image problems. Warren would probably have the sexism worse because she can often come across as very "preachy".

[Rookie Yinzer]

Middle America is sexist. A plurality of America did vote for the most qualified candidate, regardless of genitals.

They're not sexist. They just don't like Hillary Rotten Clinton.

When I referred to sexism I really wasn't trying to say Hillary lost solely because of it. My real point is that it subconsciously contributed to her image problems. Warren would probably have the sexism worse because she can often come across as very "preachy".

I can already imagine a Fox News pundit saying something about Warren worse than that guy who said when Hillary campaigns she sounds like your wife nagging you to take the trash out.

[Mr. Smith]

I'm really glad there's finally a fresh, male perspective telling me that sexism is dead in America.

I'm not saying sexism is dead because it's not.. But sexism being the cause of Hillary's defeat? Come on.. The Left has came up with better excuses than that already.

Hillary's defeat was so tight that literally any one of a dozen factors, sexism included, could be identified as the cause.

This wasn't 2000, where you could blame things like one sigh from Gore.

No, the obvious answer to 2000 was that he didn't use Bill Clinton much at the height of his popularity.

[Mr. Morden]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/08/politics/joe-biden-2020-ashley-biden/index.html

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Also:

https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/906240826870771713

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[Mr. Morden]

This week’s #2020Vision column:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/08/politics/2020-vision-democrats-single-payer/index.html

Again, much of it has already been covered in this thread.  I feel like this line from Harris was already mentioned here, but I can’t find it, so I’ll quote it again:

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Also, Eric Garcetti is making his acting debut:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/rambling-reporter/la-mayor-eric-garcetti-make-movie-acting-debut-valley-girl-remake-1035317

[Shameless Lefty Hack]

I'm really glad there's finally a fresh, male perspective telling me that sexism is dead in America.

I'm not saying sexism is dead because it's not.. But sexism being the cause of Hillary's defeat? Come on.. The Left has came up with better excuses than that already.

Hillary's defeat was so tight that literally any one of a dozen factors, sexism included, could be identified as the cause.

Sexism is not the most credible argument for her loss

I think it's a very important factor to acknowledge, not pooh-pooh it as "ridiculous leftists." Sexism isn't just "I won't vote for a woman" or "Women have periods and therefore unstable," its also a subconscious changing of standards. Trump was a scandal monster, but he was still not as bad as "Crooked Hillary," who wasn't even tried with any crime.

Hillary had to be an angel and then some in order to be considered adequate, Donald could be a brute and be considered a strong leader. 

Anyway, I don't want to relitigate the election.

Should you have to be tried for a crime to be considered crooked?? Luther Strange hasn't been charged with a crime and he's crooked as hell!

Um excuse me I will not *tolerate * badmouthing the honest public official that totally followed due process on prosecuting Gov. Bentley. /s

[TheSaint250]

This week’s #2020Vision column:

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/08/politics/2020-vision-democrats-single-payer/index.html

Again, much of it has already been covered in this thread.  I feel like this line from Harris was already mentioned here, but I can’t find it, so I’ll quote it again:

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Also, Eric Garcetti is making his acting debut:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/rambling-reporter/la-mayor-eric-garcetti-make-movie-acting-debut-valley-girl-remake-1035317

When in LA...

[Mr. Morden]

Sunday morning talk show watch: Bernie Sanders will be on "Meet the Press" this Sunday:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NEWS_SHOWS?SITE=AP

[Mr. Morden]

Here's Sanders on Colbert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv-hgegVq0k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTIStPerVNw

And here's a direct link to the part where Colbert asks him about 2020, and Sanders dodges the question:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTIStPerVNw&t=2m42s