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« Reply #550 on: December 19, 2016, 10:30:53 am »

Clinton and Kaine are holding a party to thank their big $ donors....which may or may not be related to one or both of them thinking about 2020:

http://pagesix.com/2016/12/05/hillary-clinton-throwing-party-to-thank-millionaire-donors/

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Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine are throwing a party at the Plaza hotel on Dec. 15 to thank those who donated millions to the campaign.

The party will be held in the Grand Ballroom on the third floor, to honor the Hillary for America finance leadership council.
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Unusually, Kaine is throwing his own holiday celebration in NYC earlier the same day.

The insider mused, “Is he trying to keep the donor network alive for a presidential run?”


Here's a dispatch from that event:

http://pagesix.com/2016/12/16/hillary-clintons-holiday-party-like-a-wake/

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“It was like a wake with a band,” quipped one guest who was at the Plaza on Thursday for Hillary Clinton’s holiday party to thank top-tier donors, VIP boosters and campaign advisers.

The source said, “It was a little bit of group therapy and a lot of love” among the losing Democratic rainmakers.
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“No one has any illusion of ‘the band coming back together again,’ but it did bring a sense of closure,” said a Hillary backer of the possibility she’d come back as a candidate.
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« Reply #551 on: December 19, 2016, 02:00:55 pm »

Clinton and Kaine are holding a party to thank their big $ donors....which may or may not be related to one or both of them thinking about 2020:

http://pagesix.com/2016/12/05/hillary-clinton-throwing-party-to-thank-millionaire-donors/

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Hillary Clinton and Tim Kaine are throwing a party at the Plaza hotel on Dec. 15 to thank those who donated millions to the campaign.

The party will be held in the Grand Ballroom on the third floor, to honor the Hillary for America finance leadership council.
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Unusually, Kaine is throwing his own holiday celebration in NYC earlier the same day.

The insider mused, “Is he trying to keep the donor network alive for a presidential run?”


Here's a dispatch from that event:

http://pagesix.com/2016/12/16/hillary-clintons-holiday-party-like-a-wake/

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“It was like a wake with a band,” quipped one guest who was at the Plaza on Thursday for Hillary Clinton’s holiday party to thank top-tier donors, VIP boosters and campaign advisers.

The source said, “It was a little bit of group therapy and a lot of love” among the losing Democratic rainmakers.
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“No one has any illusion of ‘the band coming back together again,’ but it did bring a sense of closure,” said a Hillary backer of the possibility she’d come back as a candidate.


Good. Now we just need to make sure that Sanders and Biden don't run.
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« Reply #552 on: December 19, 2016, 09:07:37 pm »

Who I think might run:
Booker: Maybe
Gillibrand: Maybe
Warren: Maybe
Sanders: Maybe
Harris: Maybe
Gabbard: Maybe
Everyone else: Probably not
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« Reply #553 on: December 19, 2016, 10:12:28 pm »

Regarding the committee assignments...looks like Kamala Harris didn't get assigned to either Armed Services or Foreign Affairs, but she did make it onto the Select Committee on Intelligence, so I guess she can argue that that at least gives her some "national security" cred:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-kamala-harris-nabs-national-security-1482178585-htmlstory.html
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« Reply #554 on: December 20, 2016, 02:50:45 am »

Regarding the committee assignments...looks like Kamala Harris didn't get assigned to either Armed Services or Foreign Affairs, but she did make it onto the Select Committee on Intelligence, so I guess she can argue that that at least gives her some "national security" cred:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-kamala-harris-nabs-national-security-1482178585-htmlstory.html


Michelle Bachmann was on that committee in the house when she ran for president. But she didn't get remotely close to the WH.........
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« Reply #555 on: December 20, 2016, 07:47:57 am »

Regarding the committee assignments...looks like Kamala Harris didn't get assigned to either Armed Services or Foreign Affairs, but she did make it onto the Select Committee on Intelligence, so I guess she can argue that that at least gives her some "national security" cred:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-kamala-harris-nabs-national-security-1482178585-htmlstory.html


Michelle Bachmann was on that committee in the house when she ran for president. But she didn't get remotely close to the WH.........

As a member of the House though...I think that's a different type of profile than in the Senate
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« Reply #556 on: December 20, 2016, 09:55:34 am »

Cuomo again asked if he’s going to run for president, and deflects the question with “I’m running for governor”:

http://blog.timesunion.com/capitol/archives/270341/cuomo-on-2020-plans-im-running-for-governor-in-2018/

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Gov. Andrew Cuomo did not indulge a question on Monday about whether he plans to run for president in four years, saying only he is running for re-election in 2018.

“I’m running for governor,” he told reporters with a smile following the Electoral College vote at the state Capitol. “You want to get rid of me as governor?”

Meanwhile, Michelle Obama reiterates that she’s not going to run for prez:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/michelle-obama-oprah-winfrey-cbs-interview-not-run-barack-obama-2020-first-lady-donald-trump-a7486151.html
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« Reply #557 on: December 20, 2016, 12:23:09 pm »

I posted this in another thread -

   
Booker & Warren take committee assignments to boost foreign policy for 2020 run

Democratic Sens. Cory Booker and Elizabeth Warren, two rising stars in the party who are already talked about as presidential contenders in 2020, are taking committee assignments next year that will burnish their foreign policy credentials ahead of a potential national run.

Booker will join the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 2017, giving the New Jersey Democrat a powerful perch on a panel that grapples with weighty matters such as authorizing war and leveling sanctions against foreign governments. The first-term senator will also have a front-row seat for the confirmation fight over Rex Tillerson, President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for secretary of state.

Warren will become the newest Democratic member of the Armed Services Committee, adding military credentials to a legislative portfolio heavy on domestic policy. That committee has a high-profile nomination fight as well: retired Gen. James Mattis, whom Trump will nominate to lead the Pentagon.

Source - Politico

The Sanders wing will be completely fractured because there will be another strong progressive in the primary surely as Warren is not acceptable universally & she is a weak candidate too IMO.
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« Reply #558 on: December 20, 2016, 12:39:11 pm »

I posted this in another thread -

   
Booker & Warren take committee assignments to boost foreign policy for 2020 run


Already discussed in this thread last week:


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« Reply #559 on: December 20, 2016, 01:42:16 pm »

Addendum to this list of early primary state visits this year: I guess, in addition to campaigning in NH, Warren also campaigned for both Clinton and Masto in Nevada in early November:

http://www.rgj.com/story/news/politics/2016/10/30/elizabeth-warren-campaign-wednesday-northern-nevada/93013968/

It's not totally clear that Nevada will still be an early caucus state in 2020, but it might be.
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« Reply #560 on: December 20, 2016, 01:55:51 pm »

Addendum to this list of early primary state visits this year: I guess, in addition to campaigning in NH, Warren also campaigned for both Clinton and Masto in Nevada in early November:

http://www.rgj.com/story/news/politics/2016/10/30/elizabeth-warren-campaign-wednesday-northern-nevada/93013968/

It's not totally clear that Nevada will still be an early caucus state in 2020, but it might be.


I think NH, NV, IW & SC are logical. 4 states from the North East, Mid-west, West coast & deep south - SC having large black population while NV has a solid hispanic population. 3 of the 4 states are purple or battleground states.

They will stick with NV. Logically I would prefer NC to SC as NC is a swing state & it makes sense for Dems to campaign more there.
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« Reply #561 on: December 20, 2016, 04:51:34 pm »

Addendum to this list of early primary state visits this year: I guess, in addition to campaigning in NH, Warren also campaigned for both Clinton and Masto in Nevada in early November:

http://www.rgj.com/story/news/politics/2016/10/30/elizabeth-warren-campaign-wednesday-northern-nevada/93013968/

It's not totally clear that Nevada will still be an early caucus state in 2020, but it might be.


I think NH, NV, IW & SC are logical. 4 states from the North East, Mid-west, West coast & deep south - SC having large black population while NV has a solid hispanic population. 3 of the 4 states are purple or battleground states.

They will stick with NV. Logically I would prefer NC to SC as NC is a swing state & it makes sense for Dems to campaign more there.
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« Reply #562 on: December 20, 2016, 11:08:01 pm »

"Murphy Pours Cold Water on 'Draft Murphy' Movement"

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A college student's effort to draft Chris Murphy to run for president in 2020 is getting a cool reception from the would-be candidate.

Asked if he would consider a bid, Murphy said, "no, I wouldn't."

The freshman Democratic senator told reporters at a press conference at the state Capitol Tuesday morning that his first decision is whether to run for reelection in two years.

"This job to me is the honor of a lifetime and my intentions are only to be a great United States senator from Connecticut,'' Murphy said.

http://www.courant.com/politics/capitol-watch/hc-murphy-pours-cold-water-on-draft-murphy-movement-20161220-story.html
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« Reply #563 on: December 21, 2016, 10:48:08 am »

"Murphy Pours Cold Water on 'Draft Murphy' Movement"

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A college student's effort to draft Chris Murphy to run for president in 2020 is getting a cool reception from the would-be candidate.

Asked if he would consider a bid, Murphy said, "no, I wouldn't."

The freshman Democratic senator told reporters at a press conference at the state Capitol Tuesday morning that his first decision is whether to run for reelection in two years.

"This job to me is the honor of a lifetime and my intentions are only to be a great United States senator from Connecticut,'' Murphy said.

http://www.courant.com/politics/capitol-watch/hc-murphy-pours-cold-water-on-draft-murphy-movement-20161220-story.html

I like Murphy a lot but I don't think he'd make a good candidate.
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« Reply #564 on: December 21, 2016, 01:35:53 pm »

"Murphy Pours Cold Water on 'Draft Murphy' Movement"

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A college student's effort to draft Chris Murphy to run for president in 2020 is getting a cool reception from the would-be candidate.

Asked if he would consider a bid, Murphy said, "no, I wouldn't."

The freshman Democratic senator told reporters at a press conference at the state Capitol Tuesday morning that his first decision is whether to run for reelection in two years.

"This job to me is the honor of a lifetime and my intentions are only to be a great United States senator from Connecticut,'' Murphy said.

http://www.courant.com/politics/capitol-watch/hc-murphy-pours-cold-water-on-draft-murphy-movement-20161220-story.html

I like Murphy a lot but I don't think he'd make a good candidate.

I think he'd make for a very good attack dog VP.
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« Reply #565 on: December 21, 2016, 01:49:11 pm »

Hmmm...so if Murphy isn't actually interested in running for president, why did he campaign for Clinton in the New Hampshire primary, and then campaigned again in New Hampshire this fall for both Clinton and Hassan?  I guess it's just because New Hampshire's the nearest swing state for someone living in Connecticut?
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« Reply #566 on: December 21, 2016, 02:53:31 pm »

Hmmm...so if Murphy isn't actually interested in running for president, why did he campaign for Clinton in the New Hampshire primary, and then campaigned again in New Hampshire this fall for both Clinton and Hassan?  I guess it's just because New Hampshire's the nearest swing state for someone living in Connecticut?


Yeah, it could be that he was just doing it out of a desire to help Clinton and Hassan get elected (also note thst Ayotte was famous for strongly opposing gun control, Murphy's thing, unlike the other vulnerable Northeastern Republican Senator, Pat Toomey, who is relatively moderate on the issue).

Or maybe Murphy really is thinking of running.
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« Reply #567 on: December 22, 2016, 12:09:19 pm »

So I think Wikipedia is being led astray again on what counts as a “denial”.  Here’s an excerpt from a Dec. 4th story that Wikipedia is using to claim that Gillibrand has already ruled out a 2020 presidential run:

http://observer.com/2016/12/kirsten-gillibrand-wants-more-federal-funds-to-protect-mosques-and-synagogues/

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Gillibrand—a prominent Clinton surrogate who was among elected officials who said they were convinced she would win outside Javits Center on election night—has been named as a potential Democratic candidate for the 2020 presidential election, But she said today she’s definitely not running.

“I’m running for Senate in 2018 and I really am very grateful for the opportunity to serve this state and believe it’s a platform where I can really help the most vulnerable and work on issues like this and really make a difference.”

The text of the story says “she said today she’s definitely not running”.  But the actual quote they give says nothing of the kind.  She says she’s running for reelection for Senate, but that hardly precludes her also running for president in 2020.  This is just the standard “non-denial” line that all the candidates give.  Yet the article takes that to be a real denial, and Wikipedia takes them seriously.
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« Reply #568 on: December 22, 2016, 12:19:54 pm »

Here are Biden’s post-VP plans:

http://thehill.com/homenews/311297-biden-heading-to-university-of-pennsylvania-report

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Biden’s spokesperson declined to comment, but the report notes that Biden previously alluded to working within a university in some capacity.

Biden said earlier this year in an interview with STAT that he would continue focusing on the “cancer moonshot” initiative.
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« Reply #569 on: December 22, 2016, 03:04:02 pm »

A good chance that this is just be for his mayoral reelection race, but looks like de Blasio (like Cuomo!) is hiring an aide with presidential campaign level experience:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/16/nyregion/mayor-shakes-up-media-operation-again.html

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The former spokesman, Mike Casca, 27, will become Mayor Bill de Blasio’s communications director, helping to shape the approach of a media operation that has gone through several rounds of reshuffling and has been at odds with reporters over its decision to scale back traditional mayoral news conferences to one a week.
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« Reply #570 on: December 23, 2016, 12:08:55 pm »

Here is a recap of Kander's speech before Progress Iowa:

http://iowastartingline.com/2016/12/21/in-iowa-jason-kander-pitches-path-forward-for-democrats/
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« Reply #571 on: December 23, 2016, 01:48:40 pm »

Warren's former chief of staff is being named the DSCC executive director:

http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/12/former_us_sen_elizabeth_warren.html

Will be interesting to see to what extent Warren herself gets involved in the 2018 midterms, beyond her own reelection race.
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« Reply #572 on: December 23, 2016, 02:47:03 pm »

Tim Egan from NYT casts Montana's Steve Bullock as a good dark horse candidate against Trump.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/23/opinion/red-state-hope-for-democratic-blues.html?ribbon-ad-idx=3&src=trending&module=Ribbon&version=origin&region=Header&action=click&contentCollection=Trending&pgtype=article&_r=0
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« Reply #573 on: December 25, 2016, 09:25:27 am »

Klobuchar says she’s running for reelection for her Senate seat in 2018, ruling out a run for governor that year:

http://www.startribune.com/klobuchar-will-run-again-for-senate-rules-herself-out-for-governor-s-race/408163356/

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U.S. Sen. Amy Klobuchar will run for re-election in 2018, ruling herself out for Minnesota’s next race for governor as she prepares to challenge the new Trump administration and look for ways to work with Republicans leading Congress.

In an interview with the Star Tribune, Klobuchar acknowledged that many DFLers asked her to run for governor instead of Senate re-election. But she said it’s not the right time to walk away from Washington.

“I really looked at the moment in history and I feel like my job is there,” said Klobuchar, who was first elected in 2006. “The fact that I’ve been able to get through the gridlock many, many times means that you can’t just walk away when it’s an ugly time. It means you have a duty and obligation to keep doing your job. It may sound Pollyanna but it’s what I decided.”

Speculation had swirled for months that Klobuchar, consistently the state’s most popular politician, might be ready to switch political jobs. Gov. Mark Dayton won’t run again in 2018, and the DFL is desperate to keep a seat he’s held for two terms. A former Hennepin County attorney, Klobuchar often says she misses being a chief executive and running a big organization.

If Klobuchar had run for governor, it probably would have meant no presidential run in 2020, since she would have had to start campaigning for president just a few months after taking on her new job as governor.  But since she’s just going to continue on with her existing job as Senator, a 2020 presidential run would seem to be very much on the table.
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« Reply #574 on: December 25, 2016, 03:09:55 pm »

Yet another non-denial from Gillibrand:

http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/U-S-Sen-Gillibrand-will-push-agenda-despite-10817816.php

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"I'm running for re-election in 2018 and have no plans beyond that,'' she said.
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