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« Reply #125 on: July 13, 2016, 02:35:50 PM »
« edited: July 14, 2016, 02:16:15 PM by Pericles »

My prediction:
2020 Democratic candidates
President Hillary Clinton
Rapper Kanye West(?!)

2020 Republican candidates
Texas Senator Ted Cruz
Florida Senator Marco Rubio
Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton
Nebraska Senator Ben Sasse
Colorado Senator Cory Gardner
Former Ohio Governor John Kasich
Kentucky Senator Rand Paul
Iowa Senator Joni Ernst
Former Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker
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« Reply #126 on: July 14, 2016, 06:06:53 AM »

Walker and Cotton will address the IA/NH/SC delegations.
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« Reply #127 on: July 14, 2016, 06:42:30 AM »


If that isn't a flashing neon sign indicating future presidential ambitions, I don't know what is.

Note that it's not just them, though.  The story indicates that Ernst and Kasich will both meet with the New Hampshire delegation.
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« Reply #128 on: July 14, 2016, 06:52:36 AM »

I'll be interested to see if any potential future Democratic presidential candidates meet with the IA/NH/SC delegations at the DNC.  Or would that be seen as an insult to Clinton, to already be making contingency plans for 2020 in case she loses this time?  (Since so many Republican elites don't like Trump, I guess people don't worry about that so much on the Republican side.)
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« Reply #129 on: July 14, 2016, 05:04:39 PM »

Cotton attending Laxalt's Basque Fry in August.
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« Reply #130 on: July 14, 2016, 10:12:50 PM »

Think it might be safe to include Mike Pence in possible candidates in light of today's news -- that is, if he is indeed Trump's VP choice and Trump isn't elected this year.
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« Reply #131 on: July 18, 2016, 07:43:37 AM »

My prediction:
2020 Republican candidates
Texas Senator Ted Cruz
Florida Senator Marco Rubio
Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton
Nebraska Senator Ben Sasse
Colorado Senator Cory Gardner
Former Ohio Governor John Kasich
Kentucky Senator Rand Paul
Iowa Senator Joni Ernst
Former Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker


All + Paul Ryan and Nikki Haley.
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« Reply #132 on: July 18, 2016, 09:05:24 AM »

Walker says he won't run, will be running for reelection and won't run for POTUS while guv.
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« Reply #133 on: July 18, 2016, 09:14:11 AM »


Interesting.  I guess that clears the way for Paul Ryan to get all the cheesehead donors.
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« Reply #134 on: July 18, 2016, 09:19:14 AM »

I don't know why everyone assumes Ryan's running, considering that after 4 years of Hillary he's not gonna be in the best political shape. Plus he turned down 2 Senate runs & a POTUS run already.
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« Reply #135 on: July 18, 2016, 09:36:15 AM »

I don't know why everyone assumes Ryan's running, considering that after 4 years of Hillary he's not gonna be in the best political shape. Plus he turned down 2 Senate runs & a POTUS run already.

I'm not *assuming* he's running, but I'd say there's a decent chance of it happening.  The way he talked about it here:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=233345.msg5121895#msg5121895

about the "phase of life" he was in, seemed like he very clearly wanted to indicate that a presidential run at some point in the future is something he's still thinking about.
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« Reply #136 on: July 18, 2016, 03:10:38 PM »

I don't know why everyone assumes Ryan's running, considering that after 4 years of Hillary he's not gonna be in the best political shape. Plus he turned down 2 Senate runs & a POTUS run already.

Speakers only get more and more unpopular as time goes on. 2020 may be his only shot.
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« Reply #137 on: July 19, 2016, 05:20:24 AM »

Of course, one has to ask...if Walker is seriously ruling out another run for prez in 2020, then why on Earth is he bothering to meet with the Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina delegations in Cleveland this week?  Meeting with all three sounds like a solid signal of continued presidential ambition, no?

Or maybe he's already planning his presidential campaign for 2024?  Tongue
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« Reply #138 on: July 19, 2016, 07:14:45 PM »

Cruz, Kasich, and Rubio have so fan not shared their voter profile databases from their '16 campaigns with the RNC, even though they are supposed to do so, according to data sharing agreements with the RNC:

http://www.bendbulletin.com/nation/4511817-151/delays-in-transferring-data-to-trump

Speculation is 1) they don't want to help Trump, and 2) all three of them might run again in 2020, and would like to keep exclusive access to this info.
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« Reply #139 on: July 19, 2016, 07:17:22 PM »

I don't know why everyone assumes Ryan's running, considering that after 4 years of Hillary he's not gonna be in the best political shape. Plus he turned down 2 Senate runs & a POTUS run already.
I think the only way he will run is if he retires in 2018. Otherwise, he most assuredly either thinks he can become Speaker for, say, ten years(2015-2025), retire, and either then run for President in 2024 or 2028.

Why will he have to retire as Speaker two to eight years before running:
Speakers only get more and more unpopular as time goes on. 2020 may be his only shot.



In other news, www.Kasich2020.com is a thing. #BuckleUp
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« Reply #140 on: July 20, 2016, 02:06:22 AM »

More on Kasich 2020:

http://www.dispatch.com/content/stories/local/2016/07/19/kasich-for-president-in-2020.html

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« Reply #141 on: July 20, 2016, 02:33:45 PM »

More on JK, from Larry Sabato
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Not sure if he is talking about media buzz or inside info, but Kasich 2020 is becoming CW. I wonder what would happen if the race came down to OH and Trump lost OH, would Kasich be blamed? Would it look too opportunistic?
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« Reply #142 on: July 21, 2016, 06:45:59 AM »

NRO on Cruz: he isn't changing anything.
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« Reply #143 on: July 22, 2016, 02:31:49 AM »

LA Times on the 2020 politicking in Cleveland this week:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-republicans-2020-hopefuls-20160722-snap-story.html

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« Reply #144 on: July 24, 2016, 02:02:54 AM »

While most of the 2020 action has been on the Republican side, with the DNC coming up, there are a few rumblings of Democratic action as well….either for 2020 if Trump wins in November, or else 2024 if Clinton does…

Klobuchar will speak to the South Carolina delegation at the DNC, while Joaquin Castro will speak to both the Iowa and South Carolina delegations:

http://www.postandcourier.com/20160723/160729724/south-carolinians-set-for-center-stage-at-democratic-national-convention
http://www.press-citizen.com/story/news/local/2016/07/22/iowa-city-area-delegates-head-east-democratic-convention/87443034/
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« Reply #145 on: July 26, 2016, 02:52:49 PM »

Rubio, Walker, Ernst will speak at a September AFP summit in Orlando.
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« Reply #146 on: July 27, 2016, 12:01:56 AM »

A coda to the 2020 talk at last week's RNC: Kasich said "I'll be back" when he talked to the NH delegation:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/john-kasich-tells-new-hampshire-ill-be-back/492314/

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« Reply #147 on: July 27, 2016, 12:04:21 AM »

While most of the 2020 action has been on the Republican side, with the DNC coming up, there are a few rumblings of Democratic action as well….either for 2020 if Trump wins in November, or else 2024 if Clinton does…

Klobuchar will speak to the South Carolina delegation at the DNC, while Joaquin Castro will speak to both the Iowa and South Carolina delegations:

http://www.postandcourier.com/20160723/160729724/south-carolinians-set-for-center-stage-at-democratic-national-convention
http://www.press-citizen.com/story/news/local/2016/07/22/iowa-city-area-delegates-head-east-democratic-convention/87443034/

Looks like Klobuchar also talked to the Iowa delegation (as did O'Malley and Sanders):

http://qctimes.com/bacon-too-expensive-for-iowa-delegation/article_6b17e574-f44b-5689-ba39-493250710b5a.html
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« Reply #148 on: July 27, 2016, 06:54:29 PM »

Two more potential future presidential candidates talked to the Iowa delegation: Cory Booker and Julian Castro:

http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/2016/07/27/booker-castro-test-out-applause-lines-iowa-dnc-delegation/87613130/
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« Reply #149 on: July 27, 2016, 07:07:05 PM »

I wonder what would happen if both Castro brothers ran in 2020 and/or 2024.
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