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« Reply #425 on: November 28, 2016, 02:47:12 pm »
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I guess they could go the Grover Clevland route but im not sure how receptive the party will be to her in 2020.

That would be the Adlai Stevenson route. The Grover Cleveland route would be nominating Jimmy Carter.

It would be the Stevenson route in the sense that she didnt win, but the Cleveland route in the sense that she won the popular vote and ran again.
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« Reply #426 on: November 28, 2016, 02:48:32 pm »
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I guess they could go the Grover Clevland route but im not sure how receptive the party will be to her in 2020.

That would be the Adlai Stevenson route. The Grover Cleveland route would be nominating Jimmy Carter.

It would be the Stevenson route in the sense that she didnt win, but the Cleveland route in the sense that she won the popular vote and ran again.

I guess, but Cleveland was actually President before.
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« Reply #427 on: November 29, 2016, 09:32:13 am »
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Another item from years ago that's worth looking at again, now that Trump's victory means an open Dem. primary contest in 2020: Deval Patrick said in 2014 that he wasn't going to run for president in 2016, but wouldn't rule out running for national office at some later date:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2014/02/23/governor-patrick-says-maybe-presidential-run-after-election/vGG5tmuFRE7q2nbduEwrxL/story.html

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« Reply #428 on: November 29, 2016, 10:08:12 am »
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There are both Cory Booker 2020 and Elizabeth Warren 2020 Facebook pages:

https://www.facebook.com/PresidentCoryBooker/
https://www.facebook.com/VoteforElizabethWarren/


Looks like this page is actually more active than either of those two:

https://www.facebook.com/tulsi2020/
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« Reply #429 on: November 29, 2016, 10:20:51 am »
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There are both Cory Booker 2020 and Elizabeth Warren 2020 Facebook pages:

https://www.facebook.com/PresidentCoryBooker/
https://www.facebook.com/VoteforElizabethWarren/


Looks like this page is actually more active than either of those two:

https://www.facebook.com/tulsi2020/


The FB page "Run Tulsi Run" is extremely active. Many of the commenters are anti-Hillary, pro-Bernie, and even pro-Trump. I have to admit that I like Gabbard but it is a really, really oddball mix on that page.

Are any of these actually associated with a PAC or with a broader movement?
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« Reply #430 on: November 29, 2016, 10:42:38 am »
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There are both Cory Booker 2020 and Elizabeth Warren 2020 Facebook pages:

https://www.facebook.com/PresidentCoryBooker/
https://www.facebook.com/VoteforElizabethWarren/


Looks like this page is actually more active than either of those two:

https://www.facebook.com/tulsi2020/


The FB page "Run Tulsi Run" is extremely active. Many of the commenters are anti-Hillary, pro-Bernie, and even pro-Trump. I have to admit that I like Gabbard but it is a really, really oddball mix on that page.

Are any of these actually associated with a PAC or with a broader movement?

No, these are just freelancers, AFAIK.
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« Reply #431 on: November 29, 2016, 10:50:11 pm »
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Though Kaine has said he’s not running for prez in 2020, it’s too early for us to take such denials to the bank.  So it’s worth flagging this:

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/tim-kaine-california-fundraisers-231977

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“Hillary and Tim are grateful for your support of their campaign and he looks forward to thanking you in person on December 2nd,” reads the invitation to Friday’s San Francisco event, which will be held at the home of former Ambassador Eleni Kounalakis.

Kaine will also headline a Los Angeles event during his California swing.
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« Reply #432 on: November 30, 2016, 12:11:23 pm »
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Apparently, there are multiple "Draft Michelle Obama" PACs out there now:

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/307902-ready-for-michelle-pacs-urge-2020-run

Meanwhile, Barack says she's never going to run (reiterating her own previous comments on the matter):

http://www.theroot.com/articles/news/2016/11/president-obama-michelle-will-never-run-for-office/

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« Reply #433 on: November 30, 2016, 12:36:26 pm »
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Latest on Julian Castro:

http://www.expressnews.com/news/news_columnists/gilbert_garcia/article/Castro-in-holding-pattern-while-rumors-swirl-10643379.php

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Washington friends have encouraged him to shoot for the moon and consider a presidential run in 2020. On the other end of the spectrum, some Castro associates privately have floated the possibility of him making a bid for Bexar County judge in 2018.
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The county judge scenario is based on the premise that Castro’s route to higher office will be a long, slow one, and he needs to stay in the game while patiently waiting for this blood-red state to take on a lavender hue. By this theory, after a couple of terms as county judge, he’d only be 52, and might face a more sympathetic climate for a gubernatorial run.

An alternate strategy, which some DC Democrats want Castro to consider, is the go-big approach. They have urged him to sit out the 2018 Texas election cycle and prepare to launch a 2020 campaign for president.

The theory behind this is that the rules of engagement have changed for presidential elections. The triumph of Trump, a man with no governmental experience and minimal foreign-policy chops, means that Castro’s résumé — which includes two-and-a-half years at HUD, five years as S.A. mayor and four years as a councilman — would not be considered prohibitively thin in 2020.
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« Reply #434 on: November 30, 2016, 12:50:06 pm »
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Latest on Julian Castro:

http://www.expressnews.com/news/news_columnists/gilbert_garcia/article/Castro-in-holding-pattern-while-rumors-swirl-10643379.php

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Washington friends have encouraged him to shoot for the moon and consider a presidential run in 2020. On the other end of the spectrum, some Castro associates privately have floated the possibility of him making a bid for Bexar County judge in 2018.
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An alternate strategy, which some DC Democrats want Castro to consider, is the go-big approach. They have urged him to sit out the 2018 Texas election cycle and prepare to launch a 2020 campaign for president.

The theory behind this is that the rules of engagement have changed for presidential elections. The triumph of Trump, a man with no governmental experience and minimal foreign-policy chops, means that Castro’s résumé — which includes two-and-a-half years at HUD, five years as S.A. mayor and four years as a councilman — would not be considered prohibitively thin in 2020.

Im with the go big guys Castro I think could be the perfect counter to Trump. He is young, came from a poor background, and as the article pointed out has WAY more experience prior to office than the man he would run against
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« Reply #435 on: November 30, 2016, 01:32:49 pm »
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Mark Warner says he is not considering a 2020 presidential run:

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/11/30/mark-warner-rules-out-2020-white-house-run-window-is-probably-shut/

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Mr. Warner, who as Virginia’s governor in 2006 laid groundwork for a potential 2008 presidential campaign, including visits to New Hampshire, said the time for him to be a national candidate has passed and he is not considering a White House campaign in 2020.

“I think that window is probably shut,” Mr. Warner said in a discussion with Journal reporters and editors.
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« Reply #436 on: November 30, 2016, 04:04:37 pm »
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Gabriel Debenedetti ‏@gdebenedetti  3m3 minutes ago
Hard not to read into it a LITTLE when ambitious pols go to Iowa. Jason Kander→Des Moines for the Progress Iowa holiday party next month.
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« Reply #437 on: November 30, 2016, 04:39:18 pm »
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If Joaquin Castro runs for Mayor, or becomes the VP nominee, couldn't Julian Castro run for Joaquin's House seat?
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« Reply #438 on: November 30, 2016, 05:03:01 pm »
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Gabriel Debenedetti ‏@gdebenedetti  3m3 minutes ago
Hard not to read into it a LITTLE when ambitious pols go to Iowa. Jason Kander→Des Moines for the Progress Iowa holiday party next month.

Yeah but he's obviously NOT running for prez. So what do you think it is? DNC Chair?
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« Reply #439 on: November 30, 2016, 05:13:00 pm »
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Gabriel Debenedetti ‏@gdebenedetti  3m3 minutes ago
Hard not to read into it a LITTLE when ambitious pols go to Iowa. Jason Kander→Des Moines for the Progress Iowa holiday party next month.

Yeah but he's obviously NOT running for prez. So what do you think it is? DNC Chair?

Not sure why a trip to Iowa would help one get elected DNC Chair.  Maybe he is hoping to run for prez, but in 2024 or 2028, after he wins some other office first.  Never too early to start laying the groundwork for 2028.  Tongue
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« Reply #440 on: December 01, 2016, 07:01:53 am »
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There are both Cory Booker 2020 and Elizabeth Warren 2020 Facebook pages:

https://www.facebook.com/PresidentCoryBooker/
https://www.facebook.com/VoteforElizabethWarren/


Looks like this page is actually more active than either of those two:

https://www.facebook.com/tulsi2020/


The FB page "Run Tulsi Run" is extremely active. Many of the commenters are anti-Hillary, pro-Bernie, and even pro-Trump. I have to admit that I like Gabbard but it is a really, really oddball mix on that page.

Are any of these actually associated with a PAC or with a broader movement?

That's what happens when you get an Islamophobic Blue Dog from a deep (Atlas) red state
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« Reply #441 on: December 01, 2016, 12:35:00 pm »
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Rep. Xavier Becerra will be appointed California Attorney General by Gov. Jerry Brown. Takes him out of Washington and probably forecloses presidential ambitions for 2020...I've always thought he had them.
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« Reply #442 on: December 01, 2016, 12:43:13 pm »
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Gabriel Debenedetti ‏@gdebenedetti  3m3 minutes ago
Hard not to read into it a LITTLE when ambitious pols go to Iowa. Jason Kander→Des Moines for the Progress Iowa holiday party next month.

Yeah but he's obviously NOT running for prez. So what do you think it is? DNC Chair?

Not sure why a trip to Iowa would help one get elected DNC Chair.  Maybe he is hoping to run for prez, but in 2024 or 2028, after he wins some other office first.  Never too early to start laying the groundwork for 2028.  Tongue


He can try, but it's not like the country will ever want an ultra-partisan dem like him.
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« Reply #443 on: December 01, 2016, 03:21:57 pm »
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Franken says he will not run for president in 2020:

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/sen-al-franken-rejects-2020-presidential-run-exclusive-221600004.html

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« Reply #444 on: December 01, 2016, 03:48:47 pm »
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Franken says he will not run for president in 2020:

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He would make a good vp for someone like Castro or Booker
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« Reply #445 on: December 01, 2016, 04:07:28 pm »
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Franken says he will not run for president in 2020:

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« Reply #446 on: December 01, 2016, 05:08:09 pm »
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Franken says he will not run for president in 2020:

https://www.yahoo.com/tv/sen-al-franken-rejects-2020-presidential-run-exclusive-221600004.html

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I will continue to say I can't believe he would rule it out four years out. If anyone would get my vote who is a progressive, it would be him.
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« Reply #447 on: December 01, 2016, 06:24:41 pm »
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Tulsi Gabbard is too young to run in 2020. She could be a good candidate for the democrats in 2024 if they lose in 2020. I think she could unite the far-left Bernie supporters with moderates for a national coalition, unlike an Elizabeth Warren or a Tim Kaine. The democrats' best chance in 2020 is probably a moderate governor like Bullock (D-MT), especially against Trump. If the GOP nominates an establishment candidate like Paul Ryan, they'd be fine with a left-wing anti-establishment pick. Keep in mind that if the GOP isn't renominating Trump, it probably means republicans are in turmoil and going to lose no matter what.

I'm still hoping that Trump will pick Tulsi for secretary of state. On matter like opposing regime change and favoring working relations with Russia, they are quite similar (unlike war hawk Romney who wants to bring back the Cold War). She also acknowledges that we are at war with ISLAMIC terrorists and has criticized her party for failing to use the aforementioned word. Might not play well with some on the left, but four years as secretary of state could give her good experience to base her candidacy off of (assuming they aren't filled with disaster and scandal like Hillary's were).
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« Reply #448 on: December 01, 2016, 09:49:09 pm »
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Hillary is going to run again. Bookmark me.
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« Reply #449 on: December 01, 2016, 09:55:01 pm »
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Hillary is going to run again. Bookmark me.


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