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« Reply #500 on: December 09, 2016, 03:05:58 PM »

Pocahontas would be an interesting Presidential Candidate but I wonder if she would lose it and flip out like Howard Dean did in Iowa in 2004.
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« Reply #501 on: December 09, 2016, 04:13:39 PM »

Apparently, someone (either Warren herself or perhaps someone looking to promote her) has already scooped up the domain name http://elizabethwarren2020.com .  At present it just takes you to her Senate campaign website.  To be clear, her Senate seat is up in 2018, not 2020.  But someone must have realized that 2020 presidential buzz would eventually lead people to check out elizabethwarren2020.com .


Interesting. But isn't it amateurish to have the election year in the URL?
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« Reply #502 on: December 09, 2016, 04:20:43 PM »

Apparently, someone (either Warren herself or perhaps someone looking to promote her) has already scooped up the domain name http://elizabethwarren2020.com .  At present it just takes you to her Senate campaign website.  To be clear, her Senate seat is up in 2018, not 2020.  But someone must have realized that 2020 presidential buzz would eventually lead people to check out elizabethwarren2020.com .


Interesting. But isn't it amateurish to have the election year in the URL?

I don't think it's unusual for candidates to acquire the domain rights for all the likely permutations, including the election year.  They'll often then have those redirect to the main site.  In this case though, it looks like it's not a redirect, but a mirror of her Senate campaign site?  Still not clear to me who actually owns elizabethwarren2020.com though.  Not sure if it's her or someone else.
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« Reply #503 on: December 09, 2016, 04:25:57 PM »

BTW,

http://www.runcoryrun.com

Run Cory Run appears to look somewhat legit
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« Reply #504 on: December 10, 2016, 09:51:30 AM »

Rahm Emanuel is asked about running for president in 2020 and doesn’t offer a denial.  Tongue

http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/12/09/rahm-emanuel-flips-bird-when-asked-about-2020

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In other news, it looks like Booker was asked about 2020 last month…shortly after the election, and I missed it.  Here’s the quote:

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/11/which_road_will_booker_travel_in_2020.html

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« Reply #505 on: December 10, 2016, 10:37:03 AM »

Clinton and Kaine are holding a party to thank their big $ donors....which may or may not be related to one or both of them thinking about 2020:

http://pagesix.com/2016/12/05/hillary-clinton-throwing-party-to-thank-millionaire-donors/

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« Reply #506 on: December 10, 2016, 11:03:10 AM »

Clinton and Kaine are holding a party to thank their big $ donors....which may or may not be related to one or both of them thinking about 2020:

http://pagesix.com/2016/12/05/hillary-clinton-throwing-party-to-thank-millionaire-donors/

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I can't be the only person who's uncomfortable with this. Not the part about the potential run, neither of these two would survive the primary. The part about the open embrace of big money donors by the Party that's suppose to be for the poor and working class.

This makes me uneasy and I'm a centre-left Democrat. The Bernie wing is gonna continue to grow and will eat any Democratic politicians alive who engage in this kind of behavior in 2020.
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« Reply #507 on: December 10, 2016, 11:24:26 AM »

Clinton and Kaine are holding a party to thank their big $ donors....which may or may not be related to one or both of them thinking about 2020:

http://pagesix.com/2016/12/05/hillary-clinton-throwing-party-to-thank-millionaire-donors/

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I can't be the only person who's uncomfortable with this. Not the part about the potential run, neither of these two would survive the primary. The part about the open embrace of big money donors by the Party that's suppose to be for the poor and working class.

This makes me uneasy and I'm a centre-left Democrat. The Bernie wing is gonna continue to grow and will eat any Democratic politicians alive who engage in this kind of behavior in 2020.

They will energize the Republican Party like raw meat to a lion. Run them in 2020 and Donald Trump has a second term as President and the GOP will keep control of Congress
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« Reply #508 on: December 10, 2016, 11:50:04 AM »

2020 Sunday morning talk show watch:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NEWS_SHOWS?SITE=AP

Biden is on State of the Union and Sanders is on Face the Nation tomorrow.  Rumored 2020 Republican fallback option Tim Scott is also on Face the Nation.

Not sure if you’d rate him as a possible primary challenger to Trump, but Rand Paul will be on This Week.

Trump himself will be on Fox News Sunday.
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« Reply #509 on: December 10, 2016, 12:00:52 PM »

2020 Sunday morning talk show watch:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_NEWS_SHOWS?SITE=AP

Biden is on State of the Union and Sanders is on Face the Nation tomorrow.  Rumored 2020 Republican fallback option Tim Scott is also on Face the Nation.

Not sure if you’d rate him as a possible primary challenger to Trump, but Rand Paul will be on This Week.

Trump himself will be on Fox News Sunday.

I think Tim Scott will be a major GOP Candidate for 2024. I think he runs for Governor of South Carolina in 2018 and will probably win.
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« Reply #510 on: December 10, 2016, 01:54:08 PM »

Clinton and Kaine are holding a party to thank their big $ donors....which may or may not be related to one or both of them thinking about 2020:

http://pagesix.com/2016/12/05/hillary-clinton-throwing-party-to-thank-millionaire-donors/

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I can't be the only person who's uncomfortable with this. Not the part about the potential run, neither of these two would survive the primary. The part about the open embrace of big money donors by the Party that's suppose to be for the poor and working class.

This makes me uneasy and I'm a centre-left Democrat. The Bernie wing is gonna continue to grow and will eat any Democratic politicians alive who engage in this kind of behavior in 2020.

They will energize the Republican Party like raw meat to a lion. Run them in 2020 and Donald Trump has a second term as President and the GOP will keep control of Congress

I'm honestly tired of people saying Candidate X definitely will or won't beat Trump. We don't know what 2020 will be like; Trump could lose to a potted plant or beat Jesus for all we know.
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« Reply #511 on: December 10, 2016, 02:11:32 PM »

Clinton and Kaine are holding a party to thank their big $ donors....which may or may not be related to one or both of them thinking about 2020:

http://pagesix.com/2016/12/05/hillary-clinton-throwing-party-to-thank-millionaire-donors/

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I can't be the only person who's uncomfortable with this. Not the part about the potential run, neither of these two would survive the primary. The part about the open embrace of big money donors by the Party that's suppose to be for the poor and working class.

This makes me uneasy and I'm a centre-left Democrat. The Bernie wing is gonna continue to grow and will eat any Democratic politicians alive who engage in this kind of behavior in 2020.

They will energize the Republican Party like raw meat to a lion. Run them in 2020 and Donald Trump has a second term as President and the GOP will keep control of Congress

I'm honestly tired of people saying Candidate X definitely will or won't beat Trump. We don't know what 2020 will be like; Trump could lose to a potted plant or beat Jesus for all we know.

You can't deny that the Bernie wing will be a stronger force in 2020 than it was this time around. The trends all point to it.
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« Reply #512 on: December 10, 2016, 02:18:31 PM »

Clinton and Kaine are holding a party to thank their big $ donors....which may or may not be related to one or both of them thinking about 2020:

http://pagesix.com/2016/12/05/hillary-clinton-throwing-party-to-thank-millionaire-donors/

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I can't be the only person who's uncomfortable with this. Not the part about the potential run, neither of these two would survive the primary. The part about the open embrace of big money donors by the Party that's suppose to be for the poor and working class.

This makes me uneasy and I'm a centre-left Democrat. The Bernie wing is gonna continue to grow and will eat any Democratic politicians alive who engage in this kind of behavior in 2020.

They will energize the Republican Party like raw meat to a lion. Run them in 2020 and Donald Trump has a second term as President and the GOP will keep control of Congress

I'm honestly tired of people saying Candidate X definitely will or won't beat Trump. We don't know what 2020 will be like; Trump could lose to a potted plant or beat Jesus for all we know.

You can't deny that the Bernie wing will be a stronger force in 2020 than it was this time around. The trends all point to it.

What does that have to do with what I said?
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« Reply #513 on: December 10, 2016, 02:39:51 PM »

Clinton and Kaine are holding a party to thank their big $ donors....which may or may not be related to one or both of them thinking about 2020:

http://pagesix.com/2016/12/05/hillary-clinton-throwing-party-to-thank-millionaire-donors/

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I can't be the only person who's uncomfortable with this. Not the part about the potential run, neither of these two would survive the primary. The part about the open embrace of big money donors by the Party that's suppose to be for the poor and working class.

This makes me uneasy and I'm a centre-left Democrat. The Bernie wing is gonna continue to grow and will eat any Democratic politicians alive who engage in this kind of behavior in 2020.

They will energize the Republican Party like raw meat to a lion. Run them in 2020 and Donald Trump has a second term as President and the GOP will keep control of Congress

I'm honestly tired of people saying Candidate X definitely will or won't beat Trump. We don't know what 2020 will be like; Trump could lose to a potted plant or beat Jesus for all we know.

You can't deny that the Bernie wing will be a stronger force in 2020 than it was this time around. The trends all point to it.

What does that have to do with what I said?

Sorry, thought you were replying to me.

But to add on: I don't see any scenario where a centrist democrat can win the nomination and rally the democratic base in the general election given where we're headed.
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« Reply #514 on: December 10, 2016, 03:05:33 PM »

Clinton and Kaine are holding a party to thank their big $ donors....which may or may not be related to one or both of them thinking about 2020:

http://pagesix.com/2016/12/05/hillary-clinton-throwing-party-to-thank-millionaire-donors/

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I can't be the only person who's uncomfortable with this. Not the part about the potential run, neither of these two would survive the primary. The part about the open embrace of big money donors by the Party that's suppose to be for the poor and working class.

This makes me uneasy and I'm a centre-left Democrat. The Bernie wing is gonna continue to grow and will eat any Democratic politicians alive who engage in this kind of behavior in 2020.

They will energize the Republican Party like raw meat to a lion. Run them in 2020 and Donald Trump has a second term as President and the GOP will keep control of Congress

I'm honestly tired of people saying Candidate X definitely will or won't beat Trump. We don't know what 2020 will be like; Trump could lose to a potted plant or beat Jesus for all we know.

You can't deny that the Bernie wing will be a stronger force in 2020 than it was this time around. The trends all point to it.

What does that have to do with what I said?

Sorry, thought you were replying to me.

But to add on: I don't see any scenario where a centrist democrat can win the nomination and rally the democratic base in the general election given where we're headed.

I wasn't making any statements about winning the nomination; I was talking about GE chances. But my point is that if economic conditions are dire enough it might be possible for anyone to beat Trump.
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« Reply #515 on: December 11, 2016, 11:35:39 AM »

Apparently someone actually started a Draft Chris Murphy 2020 PAC:

http://www.politico.com/tipsheets/politico-influence/2016/12/navigators-hires-transitions-keiser-commerce-committees-orlando-to-bakerhostetler-217800
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« Reply #516 on: December 11, 2016, 11:44:05 AM »

Biden talked 2020 again this morning:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/biden-president-2020_us_584d68c3e4b04c8e2bb04251

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« Reply #517 on: December 11, 2016, 12:07:13 PM »


He sounds like he very well could run in 2020
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« Reply #518 on: December 11, 2016, 05:56:14 PM »

Shark Tank was on this Friday and had a segment about Mark Cuban's upbringing and his career.

It's a stretch, but are there any signs that this guy is considering a presidential run in 2020?
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« Reply #519 on: December 11, 2016, 07:04:08 PM »

^ please no
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« Reply #520 on: December 12, 2016, 09:48:58 AM »
« Edited: December 13, 2016, 09:23:40 AM by Mr. Morden »

Reid Epstein of the WSJ says few politicos actually believe Biden is going to run in 2020, and speculates that he’s mainly trying to remain “relevant”:

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2016/12/12/why-joe-biden-keeps-mentioning-a-2020-run/

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Biden hinted towards this explanation in his interview with Tapper:

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The post linked above also mentions’ some O’Malley news (re: his aborted DNC chair bid) that I hadn't heard before:

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« Reply #521 on: December 12, 2016, 08:52:54 PM »

It's at the end, but Bernie Sanders is on MSNBC now with Chris Hayes. Entire hour is dedicated to him addressing (largely) Trump voters in Wisconsin. Looks like he's interested in presidential politics again to me.
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« Reply #522 on: December 13, 2016, 06:04:55 AM »

It's at the end, but Bernie Sanders is on MSNBC now with Chris Hayes. Entire hour is dedicated to him addressing (largely) Trump voters in Wisconsin. Looks like he's interested in presidential politics again to me.

Either ways he will have a say. If he is not fit, he will create a movement for some1 like Warren to latch onto. He has more guts & cross-over appeal than most. I can't see a Warren or a Hillary do this or address Liberty University.

Anyways Biden again hinted at a 2020 leader calling himself one of the Dem leaders.

And as weird as it may sound Hillary may run again - They have plenty of ammunition including more than than the 2M popular vote win , Russia, Comey, Fake news etc.
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« Reply #523 on: December 13, 2016, 02:09:37 PM »

The Daily News talks about Cuomo’s woes, including his corruption trial:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/lovett-gov-cuomo-political-future-remains-uncertain-article-1.2907396

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On whether he will actually run for reelection:

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« Reply #524 on: December 13, 2016, 02:20:54 PM »

At some point, I may go through all the leadership PACs for each of the potential 2020 Democratic presidential candidates.  E.g., Booker, Gillibrand, Klobuchar, and Warren all have leadership PACs…

Booker: “CoryPAC”, contributed $171,000 to Democratic candidates this cycle
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00497131&cycle=2016

Gillibrand: “Off the Sidelines”, contributed $565,000 to Democratic candidates this cycle
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00525600&cycle=2016

Klobuchar: “Follow the North Star Fund”, contributed $167,500 to Democratic candidates this cycle
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00431874&cycle=2016

Warren: “PAC for a Level Playing Field”, contributed $190,000 to Democratic candidates this cycle
https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00540195&cycle=2016

Gillibrand’s PAC is different in that 1) it only donates to women candidates, and 2) most of its money goes to House candidates.  The Booker, Klobuchar, and Warren PACs mostly donated to Senate candidates, with just a few token House candidates included as well.  The Booker, Gillibrand, and Klobuchar PACs all donated to Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign as well, while Warren’s PAC didn’t.

Senate candidates who got donations from all four of these PACs:

Tammy Duckworth (IL)
Kamala Harris (CA)
Maggie Hassan (NH)
Catherine Cortez Masto (NV)
Kate McGinty (PA)
Patty Murray (WA)

In early state (IA/NH) action, Warren’s PAC was the only one to donate to Patty Judge (IA).  And Gillibrand’s PAC gave to House candidates Ann McLane Kuster (NH), Carol Shea-Porter (NH), and Monica Vernon (IA).


To add to the above, while I don’t think de Blasio has a PAC as such, he does have a non-profit whose sole purpose seems to be promoting Bill de Blasio on the national stage:

http://www.politico.com/states/new-york/city-hall/story/2016/07/progressive-agenda-committee-spends-418-298-but-has-no-staff-and-didnt-do-anything-103906

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Will be interesting to see if this group does anything in the next ~2+ years.
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