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« Reply #1625 on: July 24, 2017, 09:15:00 am »
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That story made me love Sherrod Brown even more than I already did. He'd make a great Vice President.
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« Reply #1626 on: July 24, 2017, 12:29:42 pm »
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WaPo has a new story on Sherrod Brown in which he’s asked about running for prez in 2020, and he says “I just don’t want to do it”:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/sherrod-brown-thinks-he-could-have-helped-democrats-win-in-2016-but-what-about-2020/2017/07/23/168ac16c-6b2d-11e7-b9e2-2056e768a7e5_story.html?utm_term=.f5c85a999a39

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“I come from here, I know how to win elections here — I get all that,” Brown said. “But I just don’t want to do it.”

In other words, Sherrod Brown will never want to run for president. Unless, of course, one day, he does.

The story also includes a lot of discussion about Brown’s participation in the veepstakes last year.  Despite his current denial of interest in running for prez, he says that he “relished” the idea of campaigning in other Midwestern states, had he been the VP nominee last year:

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Three days before the selection he heard from “someone who knows this process” that it was down to him and Sen. Tim Kaine of Virginia. Later, after Kaine was unveiled as the No. 2, Brown says he heard from a former high-ranking Democratic official that Clinton had initially picked him but changed her mind.



I'm glad it has confirmed that Sherrod Brown isn't currently dying from a stage IV throat cancer.

Also, I'm totally on the Sherrod 2020 train now.
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« Reply #1627 on: July 24, 2017, 01:00:36 pm »
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WaPo has a new story on Sherrod Brown in which he’s asked about running for prez in 2020, and he says “I just don’t want to do it”:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/sherrod-brown-thinks-he-could-have-helped-democrats-win-in-2016-but-what-about-2020/2017/07/23/168ac16c-6b2d-11e7-b9e2-2056e768a7e5_story.html?utm_term=.f5c85a999a39

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“I come from here, I know how to win elections here — I get all that,” Brown said. “But I just don’t want to do it.”

In other words, Sherrod Brown will never want to run for president. Unless, of course, one day, he does.

The story also includes a lot of discussion about Brown’s participation in the veepstakes last year.  Despite his current denial of interest in running for prez, he says that he “relished” the idea of campaigning in other Midwestern states, had he been the VP nominee last year:

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He relished the idea of campaigning in the Midwest, he says now, and offered to live out of a bus that would spend all its time in Western Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin and Iowa.

Three days before the selection he heard from “someone who knows this process” that it was down to him and Sen. Tim Kaine of Virginia. Later, after Kaine was unveiled as the No. 2, Brown says he heard from a former high-ranking Democratic official that Clinton had initially picked him but changed her mind.



I'm glad it has confirmed that Sherrod Brown isn't currently dying from a stage IV throat cancer.

Also, I'm totally on the Sherrod 2020 train now.

Every time I hear Sherrod Brown speak, I always remember how good he was as Freddy Krueger in the Nightmare on Elm Street movies.
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« Reply #1628 on: July 24, 2017, 09:42:58 pm »
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Back to the Hamptons for Harris, and she's hiring a lot of Hillary staffers. *vomits*

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An anonymous Democratic donor told The Hill that Harris is “absolutely going to run” in 2020. Another source told Page Six,“She’s on overdrive. It’s not just about the money…That’s the easy part for her. She wants to meet the influential.”

In addition to courting donors, Harris has hired several former Clinton staffers. Hillary For America Regional Director Sergio Gonzales joined Harris’ Washington, D.C., office in March 2017. Lily Adams, who served as the DNC’s deputy communications director before joining the Clinton campaign in Iowa in 2015, now serves as Harris’ communications director. Harris’ Deputy Press Secretary Kate Waters also worked for the Clinton campaign. Harris’ hiring indicates that she hopes to stack her staff with people who have experience working on presidential campaigns.

http://observer.com/2017/07/clinton-staff-donors-kamala-harris-2020/
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« Reply #1629 on: July 24, 2017, 09:48:52 pm »
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Brown's chances of being the VP pick go way up if a Democrat wins the OH Gov race next year.
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« Reply #1630 on: July 24, 2017, 09:51:31 pm »
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Brown's chances of being the VP pick go way up if a Democrat wins the OH Gov race next year.
Especially since the governor would most likely appoint Tim Ryan, who would be best suited to hold the seat for a significant time rather than simply a temporary, half-term occupant.
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« Reply #1631 on: July 25, 2017, 06:06:41 am »
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« Reply #1632 on: July 25, 2017, 07:56:09 am »
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Latest from Mitch Landrieu:

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"You'd never rule out running (for) anything, you never say never about anything, but I'm not running," he said.
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« Reply #1633 on: July 25, 2017, 01:17:26 pm »
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« Reply #1634 on: July 25, 2017, 08:21:52 pm »
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The Brown piece makes Tim Ryan's decision to remain in the House much more understandable - if Brown is elected nationwide in 2020 he gets the Senate appointment, and if Brown isn't on the ticket/loses nationwide then he challenges Portman in a Trump six-year midterm in 2022.
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« Reply #1635 on: July 26, 2017, 02:15:12 am »
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The Brown piece makes Tim Ryan's decision to remain in the House much more understandable - if Brown is elected nationwide in 2020 he gets the Senate appointment, and if Brown isn't on the ticket/loses nationwide then he challenges Portman in a Trump six-year midterm in 2022.

Or he's a young guy in a safe seat on the right side of a massive generational bottleneck in the House...

I don't see why anything in that piece indicates a Brown 2020 run any more than any of the various other pieces on Brown have. He's a nice guy, he has the right bio if he wants to do it.

But he doesn't want to do it. He's never wanted to do it. We could pretty transparently *see * if he wanted to do it (he'd pop up in this thread a lot more, that's for sure), and he's not doing any of the things that would indicate he wants to.

He doesn't want to do it.
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« Reply #1636 on: July 26, 2017, 09:54:26 am »
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The Brown piece makes Tim Ryan's decision to remain in the House much more understandable - if Brown is elected nationwide in 2020 he gets the Senate appointment, and if Brown isn't on the ticket/loses nationwide then he challenges Portman in a Trump six-year midterm in 2022.

Or he's a young guy in a safe seat on the right side of a massive generational bottleneck in the House...

I don't see why anything in that piece indicates a Brown 2020 run any more than any of the various other pieces on Brown have. He's a nice guy, he has the right bio if he wants to do it.

But he doesn't want to do it. He's never wanted to do it. We could pretty transparently *see * if he wanted to do it (he'd pop up in this thread a lot more, that's for sure), and he's not doing any of the things that would indicate he wants to.

He doesn't want to do it.

I mostly agree but he's candid about wanting the VP job once he was a finalist and about regretting not being able to campaign across the Midwest. That doesn't mean he's insincere now when he expresses a lack of desire to run for president. But presumably, if he's re-elected in one of the handful of states Democrats need to flip to take back the White House, the buzz about him running will grow and possibly affect him a way similar to being in VP contention did.


As for Tim Ryan, sounds like he may be eyeing running in 2020 himself and being elected governor in 2018 is too fast to turn around and run for president. (At least, it has been for a few decades.)
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« Reply #1637 on: July 26, 2017, 02:53:46 pm »
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Klobuchar heading to Los Angeles for a fundraiser with Hollywood bigwigs:

http://www.latimes.com/politics/essential/la-pol-ca-essential-politics-updates-sen-klobuchar-to-fundraise-among-1501033609-htmlstory.html

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Donors are being asked to contribute up to $5,400 to attend the afternoon reception at the Brentwood home of Andy Spahn, an advisor to some of the entertainment industry’s biggest political contributors, and his wife, Jennifer Perry.

Paul Begala and James Carville, former top advisors to President Bill Clinton, are billed as special guests.

Hosts include Hollywood titan Jeffrey Katzenberg, director J.J. Abrams, “Lost” co-creator Damon Lindelof, Universal Film Chairman Jeff Shell, and producers Paul Junger Witt and Susan Harris.
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« Reply #1638 on: July 27, 2017, 02:04:24 pm »
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Hillary Clinton's new book is coming out in September, and it now has a title:

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/27/16050224/hillary-clinton-memoir-title-what-happened



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The press release states that Clinton will discuss “the challenges of being a strong woman in the public eye, the criticism over her voice, age, and appearance, and the double standard confronting women in politics.”

The memoir will reportedly take readers “inside the intense personal experience of becoming the first woman nominated for president by a major party” in an election ultimately “marked by rage, sexism, exhilarating highs and infuriating lows, stranger-than-fiction twists, Russian interference, and an opponent who broke all the rules.”
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« Reply #1639 on: July 27, 2017, 02:18:01 pm »
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The Brown piece makes Tim Ryan's decision to remain in the House much more understandable - if Brown is elected nationwide in 2020 he gets the Senate appointment, and if Brown isn't on the ticket/loses nationwide then he challenges Portman in a Trump six-year midterm in 2022.

Or he's a young guy in a safe seat on the right side of a massive generational bottleneck in the House...

I don't see why anything in that piece indicates a Brown 2020 run any more than any of the various other pieces on Brown have. He's a nice guy, he has the right bio if he wants to do it.

But he doesn't want to do it. He's never wanted to do it. We could pretty transparently *see * if he wanted to do it (he'd pop up in this thread a lot more, that's for sure), and he's not doing any of the things that would indicate he wants to.

He doesn't want to do it.

I mostly agree but he's candid about wanting the VP job once he was a finalist and about regretting not being able to campaign across the Midwest. That doesn't mean he's insincere now when he expresses a lack of desire to run for president. But presumably, if he's re-elected in one of the handful of states Democrats need to flip to take back the White House, the buzz about him running will grow and possibly affect him a way similar to being in VP contention did.


As for Tim Ryan, sounds like he may be eyeing running in 2020 himself and being elected governor in 2018 is too fast to turn around and run for president. (At least, it has been for a few decades.)

Nah, Ryan wants to be Speaker.

I am also thoroughly unconvinced Hillary putting out a new book means she's looking to run.
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« Reply #1640 on: July 27, 2017, 02:21:03 pm »
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I am also thoroughly unconvinced Hillary putting out a new book means she's looking to run.

Agreed, but I really wish that the Clintons would take the hint and retire from public life.
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« Reply #1641 on: July 27, 2017, 02:22:19 pm »
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I am also thoroughly unconvinced Hillary putting out a new book means she's looking to run.

I'm actually looking at it the other way around.  The press release promises that she's going to be "candid" this time.  If she really does let it rip and says what's on her mind regardless of the political implications, then I'd take that as a sign that she's ruled out a 2020 run.  But it's too early to know if she's actually doing that, or if saying that is just a marketing tactic.  We'll have to wait to see the contents of the book to find out.
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« Reply #1642 on: July 27, 2017, 02:24:42 pm »
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So she still can't take responsibility for her faults?
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« Reply #1644 on: July 27, 2017, 03:25:06 pm »
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Rep. John Delaney is reportedly thinking about running for president:

http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Beat/2017/Delaney-Plans-To-Announce-Decision-This-Weekend-on-Political-Future/

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Rep. John Delaney is planning to announce his future political plans this weekend and it is appearing less likely he’ll seek re-election to his District 6 seat in 2018.

Delaney spokesman Will McDonald said in an email to Bethesda Beat on Wednesday evening that Delaney will reveal his plans “unless health care votes necessitate a change.”

A source with knowledge of Delaney’s plans, who declined to be identified, told Bethesda Beat earlier this week that Delaney plans to announce he will run for the Democratic nomination for president in 2020 and will reveal his plans in an op-ed in The Washington Post this weekend.
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Delaney did not deny the possibility of a presidential run when asked directly about it earlier this month at a Rockville forum on President Donald Trump’s federal budget proposal. “I think the comments I’ve made are all the comments I’ve made at this point,” he said.  However, Delaney has not made any clear comments about potential presidential plans, other than his spokesman denying he had opened an office in Iowa in May and saying he wasn’t actively running for president.

He's potentially going to announce for president this weekend?!?  Sheesh.

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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/27/john-delaney-2020-president-241044

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Rep. John Delaney (D-Md.) plans on bypassing runs for governor and reelection and has told associates he is seriously considering a bid for president in 2020, according to two Democratic sources.

Five Democratic sources in the state said buzz about Delaney's intentions for 2018 and 2020 has been building for weeks, with increasing chatter about a presidential bid. Delaney, who could self-fund a run for governor, will skip a challenge against popular GOP Gov. Larry Hogan. He will also leave Democrats to defend his district, which he nearly lost in 2014. Democrats in the state believe he will announce his plans in a Washington Post op-ed on Friday.
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« Reply #1645 on: July 27, 2017, 04:18:01 pm »
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Rep. John Delaney is reportedly thinking about running for president:

http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Beat/2017/Delaney-Plans-To-Announce-Decision-This-Weekend-on-Political-Future/

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Rep. John Delaney is planning to announce his future political plans this weekend and it is appearing less likely he’ll seek re-election to his District 6 seat in 2018.

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A source with knowledge of Delaney’s plans, who declined to be identified, told Bethesda Beat earlier this week that Delaney plans to announce he will run for the Democratic nomination for president in 2020 and will reveal his plans in an op-ed in The Washington Post this weekend.
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He's potentially going to announce for president this weekend?!?  Sheesh.

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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/07/27/john-delaney-2020-president-241044

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Rep. John Delaney (D-Md.) plans on bypassing runs for governor and reelection and has told associates he is seriously considering a bid for president in 2020, according to two Democratic sources.

Five Democratic sources in the state said buzz about Delaney's intentions for 2018 and 2020 has been building for weeks, with increasing chatter about a presidential bid. Delaney, who could self-fund a run for governor, will skip a challenge against popular GOP Gov. Larry Hogan. He will also leave Democrats to defend his district, which he nearly lost in 2014. Democrats in the state believe he will announce his plans in a Washington Post op-ed on Friday.


Interesting...will definitely have to be on the lookout for his op-ed
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« Reply #1646 on: July 27, 2017, 10:02:13 pm »
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« Reply #1647 on: July 27, 2017, 10:11:37 pm »
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So she still can't take responsibility for her faults?

She does own responsibility in the book, there were a number of factors including her mistakes that lead to her defeat and will be addressed.
I am also thoroughly unconvinced Hillary putting out a new book means she's looking to run.

I'm actually looking at it the other way around.  The press release promises that she's going to be "candid" this time.  If she really does let it rip and says what's on her mind regardless of the political implications, then I'd take that as a sign that she's ruled out a 2020 run.  But it's too early to know if she's actually doing that, or if saying that is just a marketing tactic.  We'll have to wait to see the contents of the book to find out.

I would hope for both to occur, its just too early to rule anything out or be sure.
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« Reply #1649 on: July 27, 2017, 11:53:41 pm »
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Was just about to report on Delaney but dang...
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