gender

[MaC]

A continuation of the argument between EarlAW and myself. 


His argument is that gender roles are bad because their taught by society and they hinder individuality.
(Correct me Earl if this premise isn't what you stated) or if you want to modify your position)

My argument is that even without society, that we inherently act a certain way because we're born with that knowledge, and society is bad since it promotes androgyny.

For those who've never took a basic psych class, I side with option 1, he sides with option 2

That said vote and discuss.

[MaC]

It must be those liberal teachers feeding me leftist propoganda

pfft. No wonder you consider yourself a feminist.

[MaC]

it's a nature thing mainly.  Yeah, there's some influence from society, but we act how we do because we're born that way.  Going back to the original topic, men naturally don't find "The Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants" interesting, now the societal part may come from us being so grossed out by that movie we would rather sevre our balls than watch it, but no male would ever naturally find that movie interesting.

[MaC]

Nature. Here's a serious question. If you put two male babies and two female babies on an island ( they don't die), do you think that in 5 years they will be acting differently according to sex and by ten they will find some sort of attraction to the opposite sex. I would think so. It's inherent. A male has XY and a female has XX. They produce different levels of different hormones and 96% of the time, they are attracted to the opposite sex, and I'm sure that in many African tribal societies with no contact with the radical libertarianism and social permissiveness of he West, the number is 100%.

African tribes work to nurture their children too. That's why different societies have different gender roles. If you put 4 people on an island they will still be effected by society- their own society. The only way you can do this experiment is by putting someone in a vaccuum.

So you think if four people, two men, two women were put on four different planets, each their own, each supplied with their own necessities, that it would necessarily be all that different?