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« on: June 19, 2018, 10:43:17 pm »

I have an impression that in today's political world, it is more advantageous for a politician to say what he or she truly believes, as opposed to what people want to hear, which was advantageous decades ago. For example, in the 2004 election, this issue helped Bush and hurt Kerry.

To what extent is this perception accurate or inaccurate?
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« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2018, 11:27:19 pm »

If what you were saying is true, Trump never would've stood a chance and Bernie would've won enough Western and Northeast states to override Hillary in the delegate count.

No, its pretty clear that "what people want to hear" is precisely the best method to win... it's just that there are two bases to pander too and a politician has to sound like they believe what they say, because that is what they want to hear.
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« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2018, 11:57:59 pm »

Better yet, convince yourself of what people want to hear and spew that. Most people are malleable enough to make it work.
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« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2018, 10:29:54 am »

Then how did saying "what people want to hear" hurt Kerry in 2004 while saying "what he believed" help Bush?
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« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2018, 01:05:19 pm »

The GOP says what their base wants to hear, which lines up with what they believe. The Dems say what Dallas billionaires want to hear.
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« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2018, 01:06:13 pm »

The GOP says what their base wants to hear, which lines up with what they believe. The Dems say what Dallas billionaires want to hear.
lol, McAuliffe and Cuomo are not the only Democrats alive.
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« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2018, 02:43:42 pm »

The GOP says what their base wants to hear, which lines up with what they believe. The Dems say what Dallas billionaires want to hear.
republicans fundamentally don't understand their own voters
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