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« on: April 10, 2016, 09:36:15 am »
« edited: April 10, 2016, 09:38:13 am by Mr. Morden »

Fox News poll of PA, conducted April 4-7:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2016/04/10/fox-news-poll-2016-pennsylvania-primary/

Dems

Clinton 49%
Sanders 38%

GOP

Trump 48%
Kasich 22%
Cruz 20%
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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2016, 09:38:04 am »

LOL. Beat me by seconds. Please delete my duplicate post.
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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2016, 09:42:17 am »

Dem race by race:

whites:
Clinton 46%
Sanders 40%

blacks:
Clinton 69%
Sanders 22%

GOP race by education level:

college degree:
Trump 41%
Kasich 29%
Cruz 19%

no college degree:
Trump 55%
Cruz 20%
Kasich 14%

GOP second choice:
Kasich 30%
Cruz 27%
Trump 11%

The second choices of Trump supporters:
Kasich 40%
Cruz 33%

The second choices of Cruz supporters:
Kasich 56%
Trump 29%

The second choices of Kasich supporters:
Cruz 50%
Trump 21%
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« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2016, 09:47:37 am »

Here 25% of the voters are under 45 - In 2008 it was it was 31% & by that result, Clinton's lead drops to 9%.

I think it is safe to say Clinton has around a 10% lead in PA as of now with NY around 13%!
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« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2016, 10:07:52 am »

Here 25% of the voters are under 45 - In 2008 it was it was 31% & by that result, Clinton's lead drops to 9%.

I think it is safe to say Clinton has around a 10% lead in PA as of now with NY around 13%!

What did I tell you. STOP UNSKEWING POLLS.

Your new name is Dean Chambers
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« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2016, 10:08:39 am »
« Edited: April 10, 2016, 10:13:32 am by President Johnson »

YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE!!! #CANTSTUMPTHETRUMP
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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2016, 10:12:29 am »

The other most important thing about this poll is that the electorate is locked in, just like NY

84% of Clinton supporters are not moving
79% of Sanders supporters are not moving.

This means we're not going to see much change in these polls
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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2016, 10:37:05 am »

The other most important thing about this poll is that the electorate is locked in, just like NY

84% of Clinton supporters are not moving
79% of Sanders supporters are not moving.

This means we're not going to see much change in these polls

Yeah, this late in the game, most people know who they are voting for.
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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2016, 11:31:04 am »

Here 25% of the voters are under 45 - In 2008 it was it was 31% & by that result, Clinton's lead drops to 9%.

I think it is safe to say Clinton has around a 10% lead in PA as of now with NY around 13%!

What did I tell you. STOP UNSKEWING POLLS.

Your new name is Dean Chambers

Ok - Junk Poll due to the demographic break-up!
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« Reply #9 on: April 10, 2016, 11:46:43 am »

Ok - Junk Poll due to the demographic break-up!

Is a demographic breakup the opposite of a demographic breakdown?
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« Reply #10 on: April 10, 2016, 12:11:30 pm »

Wow, that's an awful showing for Cruz here.
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« Reply #11 on: April 10, 2016, 12:13:30 pm »

Wow, that's an awful showing for Cruz here.

Yeah, I guess it's possible Cruz gets 3rd in all 6 of the upcoming Northeastern states.
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« Reply #12 on: April 10, 2016, 12:16:34 pm »

Wow, shocking! He may win all but 3 or 4 CDs with this kind of lead!
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« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2016, 12:38:22 pm »

The tightening begins for dems....
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« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2016, 03:26:32 pm »

PA has some very odd delegate rules, where the winner gets 17 delegates and then the rest are unbound at the convention. Why even have an election if you are letting these establishment hacks decide for the voters? I would hope these unbound delegates respect the will of the people and back Trump.
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« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2016, 04:30:09 pm »

Sanders has a great chance to win here.
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« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2016, 04:35:50 pm »


LOL no, not when over 4/5 of the Dem electorate is already decided on who to vote for
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« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2016, 04:40:45 pm »


LOL no, not when over 4/5 of the Dem electorate is already decided on who to vote for

In this ONE poll that has showed the race tightened yes. You seem to believe no one will ever change their vote which is pretty absurd. Clinton is probably in single digits here, what a terrible candidate.
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« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2016, 06:34:22 pm »

Wow, shocking! He may win all but 3 or 4 CDs with this kind of lead!

Yeah, and like I said, I'll be surprised if he does not do really well in the western part of the state.

PA has some very odd delegate rules, where the winner gets 17 delegates and then the rest are unbound at the convention. Why even have an election if you are letting these establishment hacks decide for the voters? I would hope these unbound delegates respect the will of the people and back Trump.

If Trump romps both in PA and generally in the northeast the rest of the way (NJ is still to vote too), and if Kasich would kind of supplant Cruz (boy, that would be a bonus) it would be disastrous and ruinous if those delegates came in and said, "No, we don't like how you people voted, we're going to correct it and vote for someone significantly weaker." Which is why I think if Trump is sitting there with 1215 or 1220 or around 1200 he can take it.
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« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2016, 07:16:34 pm »

Bill Clinton has been doing his best to help Hillary with the "hard working white people".
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« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2016, 07:22:27 pm »

Bill Clinton has been doing his best to help Hillary with the "hard working white people".

Yep, his racism has been a YUGE help to Sanders.
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« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2016, 07:26:05 pm »

Wow, shocking! He may win all but 3 or 4 CDs with this kind of lead!

Yeah, and like I said, I'll be surprised if he does not do really well in the western part of the state.

PA has some very odd delegate rules, where the winner gets 17 delegates and then the rest are unbound at the convention. Why even have an election if you are letting these establishment hacks decide for the voters? I would hope these unbound delegates respect the will of the people and back Trump.

If Trump romps both in PA and generally in the northeast the rest of the way (NJ is still to vote too), and if Kasich would kind of supplant Cruz (boy, that would be a bonus) it would be disastrous and ruinous if those delegates came in and said, "No, we don't like how you people voted, we're going to correct it and vote for someone significantly weaker." Which is why I think if Trump is sitting there with 1215 or 1220 or around 1200 he can take it.

He's doing well in Philadelphia proper too if you trust the crosstabs on that previous poll (which was much closer).

I was quite nervous about Kasich making PA-12 close, but I dunno, I guess I'm pretty optimistic now. A lot of Trump people made the ballot. Unfortunately, the first one alphabetically is a Cruz guy and another Cruz guy as a very non-controversial name. I was expecting Kasich over Cruz 2-1 in my count, but I may just change that to Trump 2-1.

I guess Lancaster would be the remaining logical place to visit. We have the octopus districts down here, so it's hard to be tactical, but it'd be good to ensure his supporters in the SE turn out.
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« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2016, 08:18:44 am »

It looks like Sanders can win PA and eventually get the nomination. Will he? I don't know. I am not going to be surprised either way. He is still rising so there is no reason to give up hope that he might get to 2026 by June 14. I don't think he will do much better than 2026, however.

If he does get to 2026, I certainly hope that the super delegates don't overturn the will of the people.
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« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2016, 08:58:37 am »

PA has some very odd delegate rules, where the winner gets 17 delegates and then the rest are unbound at the convention. Why even have an election if you are letting these establishment hacks decide for the voters? I would hope these unbound delegates respect the will of the people and back Trump.

Not a Trump fan but I entirely agree with that. It's utterly stupid and undemocratic.
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« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2016, 10:11:12 am »

New Poll: Pennsylvania President by Fox News on 2016-04-07

Summary:
Clinton:
49%
Sanders:
38%
Other:
2%
Undecided:
11%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

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