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« on: April 18, 2016, 11:20:09 am »

New polling from the battleground state of Utah....

Trump 38%
Clinton 38%
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Cruz 67%
Clinton 26%
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Kasich 69%
Clinton 23%

Sanders 49%
Trump 34%
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Cruz 63%
Sanders 32%
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Kasich 64%
Sanders 30%

http://utahpolicy.com/index.php/features/today-at-utah-policy/9193-
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« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2016, 11:42:55 am »

Sanders 49%
Trump 34%

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« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2016, 11:45:03 am »

This is the same firm as the other one.  Let's see someone else replicate this before we worry about Utah if Trump is the nominee.
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« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2016, 11:46:18 am »


That ol' Mormon Sanders... Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2016, 12:10:51 pm »


Donald Trump is the worst cultural match for Utah that the Republican Party could come up with. Cruz and Kasich do well enough. Republicans are doing well in gubernatorial and senatorial polls. So maybe the trouble is with Donald Trump and not the poll. Does having had  your name attached to vodka, let alone gambling casinos, sound like a good way to win the votes of Mormons? What's next? Trump cigarettes?

Then there are the multiple failed marriages, something very un-Mormon. 

Utah has only six electoral votes, but in view of how Republicans are doing in other states, the usual swing states, it is a state that the GOP dare not lose in a Presidential election.

This is the same firm as the other one.  Let's see someone else replicate this before we worry about Utah if Trump is the nominee.

True, but it polled again and got the same result. Do you have evidence that this is a push poll?
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« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2016, 12:12:15 pm »

This is the same firm as the other one.  Let's see someone else replicate this before we worry about Utah if Trump is the nominee.
I dunno, it shows the state is still super Republican without Trump on the ballot.
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« Reply #6 on: April 18, 2016, 12:27:29 pm »

This is the same firm as the other one.  Let's see someone else replicate this before we worry about Utah if Trump is the nominee.
I dunno, it shows the state is still super Republican without Trump on the ballot.

That's the point.

I can imagine many Utahns voting for a Third Party or independent conservative rather than for Trump. 39-37-24 is good for the person winning 39. That could be Hillary Clinton. 

49% is close to the ceiling for Sanders in Utah, but if an independent or third-Party conservative is able to get even 3% of the total vote, Utah goes to Sanders.
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2016, 12:32:55 pm »

Donald Trump is going to have to contest the state of Utah.

If you told me some months back the GOP nominee would need to fight for Utah in 2016, I would of told you to lay off the meth.
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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2016, 12:45:34 pm »

Donald Trump is going to have to contest the state of Utah.

If you told me some months back the GOP nominee would need to fight for Utah in 2016, I would of told you to lay off the meth.

B-b-b-but Trump will win FL, OH, PA!!!1! He's more electable than Cruz! Seriously, if a Sanders vs. Trump election was held today, Sanders would probably win 45 states or so.
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2016, 01:06:21 pm »

Funny, but some undecided Republicans will end up voting for Trump after all is said and done.

But the swing/trend would be enormous with Trump.
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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2016, 01:11:34 pm »

Donald Trump is going to have to contest the state of Utah.

If you told me some months back the GOP nominee would need to fight for Utah in 2016, I would of told you to lay off the meth.

B-b-b-but Trump will win FL, OH, PA!!!1! He's more electable than Cruz! Seriously, if a Sanders vs. Trump election was held today, Sanders would probably win 45 states or so.

Trump would still sweep all of the south save for the east coast.
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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2016, 01:13:48 pm »

I think these are valid numbers.  Trump is not a good fit for Utah.  I could imagine him losing it, but Republicans still faring well in other state races.  Still, there will probably be a net Democratic swing for the other races.
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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2016, 01:36:08 pm »

So Utah State really might be the swing state.
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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2016, 01:49:48 pm »

New Poll: Utah President by Dan Jones on 2016-04-05

Summary: D: 38%, R: 38%, U: 25%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details
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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2016, 01:50:50 pm »

We only need one more poll to make Utah a toss up on the Atlas map! Don't be shy pollsters! lulz
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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2016, 03:06:27 pm »

Toss-up, Clinton vs. Trump 

Edge D, Sanders vs. Trump.

Strong R,  any other Presidential matchup and Senatorial and Gubernatorial races.
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« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2016, 03:07:11 pm »

swing state Utah strikes again
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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2016, 09:22:21 pm »

I was called a troll in 2015 for calling this. Unbelievable. I will not accept my accolades.

I love this new Republican Party. Get these pansies out of my party.
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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2016, 09:50:33 pm »

I was called a troll in 2015 for calling this. Unbelievable. I will not accept my accolades.

I love this new Republican Party. Get these pansies out of my party.

I thought it possible, but something more in line with prophecy than with prediction.

So is it possible for someone on the Left to so offend the sensibilities  of Maryland voters that Maryland will go to the Republican nominee some time? Yes.
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« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2016, 10:04:25 pm »

Again, Mormons dislike Trump for various reasons. As others have mentioned, the perceived immorality in his personal life and his casinos and alcohol shilling is a factor, but also his anti-immigrant (there are a lot of Mormons who are Mexican, and even more who know a Mormon Mexican) and anti-refugee rhetoric. Mormons also don't trust his inconsistent views (Republican-Democrat-Reform; what political party will he belong to next?) and flip-flopping.

And his obnoxious, arrogant, and anti-humble attitude makes it even worse. Mormons prefer politicians who at least pretend to be humble. And Trump has attacked Romney, which is like someone attacking JFK at the height of Kennedy nostalgia among Catholics.
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« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2016, 10:05:49 pm »

Trump will win UT
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« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2016, 10:08:02 pm »

Trump will win UT

Sure, but it'll be closer than it should be. I imagine Trump will win Utah by about 10-15%, rather than nearly 50% like Romney did.
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« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2016, 10:22:29 pm »

alcohol shilling

Funny, I love him in part because of his abstinence XD
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« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2016, 10:57:58 pm »

38% statewide would probably mean that UT-4 would turn blue and boot Mia Love down ballot. If Democrats could gain some good footing in Salt Lake County that they could possibly make stick in the future, that would great
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« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2016, 11:45:20 pm »

alcohol shilling

Funny, I love him in part because of his abstinence XD

He may be an alcoholic or a diabetic, for all I know. By "alcoholic" I here mean the AA use -- that some people are born alcoholic because of their metabolism, and that alcoholics who give up drinking are still alcoholics who simply are not drinking at the time.
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