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« Reply #550 on: November 07, 2017, 10:07:15 PM »


It is a non-competitive election unlike Virginia where people voting matters. What do you expect?

Murphy @ 56.2%, leading by 14.3% now !
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« Reply #551 on: November 07, 2017, 10:11:27 PM »


It is a non-competitive election unlike Virginia where people voting matters. What do you expect?

Murphy @ 56.2%, leading by 14.3% now !

Yeah, but I gave a whole presentation at Bergen Community College about the importance of voting. Kinda hurts a ton of people can't be bothered to vote.

Also, this is probably close to a 60-40 split for Murphy.
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« Reply #552 on: November 07, 2017, 10:11:47 PM »

I haven't been following NJ much at all, but this is from DK:

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So Democrats will have comfortable supermajorities? Seems like pretty big gains!
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« Reply #553 on: November 07, 2017, 10:14:47 PM »

I haven't been following NJ much at all, but this is from DK:

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So Democrats will have comfortable supermajorities? Seems like pretty big gains!

Since democrats already have majorities and Christie is out of the way, it honestly didn't seem that big in comparison to VA.
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« Reply #554 on: November 07, 2017, 10:21:01 PM »


It is a non-competitive election unlike Virginia where people voting matters. What do you expect?

Murphy @ 56.2%, leading by 14.3% now !

Murphy was supposed to run up 60% on that Christie clone Guadagno. I wonder if Kim going full Trump on the sanctuary state issue moved the needle at all (though obviously not enough to win the election).
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« Reply #555 on: November 07, 2017, 10:21:35 PM »

Poor Bramnick. He's a good man, but too close to Christie.
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« Reply #556 on: November 07, 2017, 10:23:04 PM »

Murphy will probably win by around 15%,   not 20%.    That's not a disappointment or anything really.

With Murphy in the gov seat and the expanded Dem majorities in the leg chambers...we're most likely going to be seeing legalized marijuana in NJ in the near future.
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« Reply #557 on: November 07, 2017, 10:23:33 PM »


It is a non-competitive election unlike Virginia where people voting matters. What do you expect?

Murphy @ 56.2%, leading by 14.3% now !

Murphy was supposed to run up 60% on that Christie clone Guadagno. I wonder if Kim going full Trump on the sanctuary state issue moved the needle at all (though obviously not enough to win the election).

Low turnout + uncharismatic former wall street excutive = generic dem performance.
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« Reply #558 on: November 07, 2017, 10:29:34 PM »


It is a non-competitive election unlike Virginia where people voting matters. What do you expect?

Murphy @ 56.2%, leading by 14.3% now !

Murphy was supposed to run up 60% on that Christie clone Guadagno. I wonder if Kim going full Trump on the sanctuary state issue moved the needle at all (though obviously not enough to win the election).

Low turnout + uncharismatic former wall street excutive = generic dem performance.

Murphy was leading by 12% in latest Quinnipiac poll. And in the last Gravis & Monmouth poll more than a week back, he was leading by 14%. He will probably cross 14% with many Hudson, Bergen, Essex county precincts being left.

The Democrats have made big gains in the legislature in NJ as well. If people are making amateurish make-believe Margins, then they will always be disappointed. You can't please children!
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« Reply #559 on: November 07, 2017, 10:33:49 PM »

Poor Bramnick. He's a good man, but too close to Christie.

so sad Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry
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« Reply #560 on: November 07, 2017, 10:35:20 PM »

Poor Bramnick. He's a good man, but too close to Christie.

Bramnick will win despite the vicious gerrymander.
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« Reply #561 on: November 07, 2017, 10:37:59 PM »

Poor Bramnick. He's a good man, but too close to Christie.

Bramnick will win despite the vicious gerrymander.

Kind of like how Democrats are on track to flip the VA HoD despite the vicious gerrymander there.

I love underdog stories!
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« Reply #562 on: November 07, 2017, 10:38:37 PM »

As of now looks like no net gain for either party in the NJ senate, with each party picking up one seat.
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« Reply #563 on: November 07, 2017, 10:39:22 PM »

Poor Bramnick. He's a good man, but too close to Christie.

Bramnick will win despite the vicious gerrymander.

Kind of like how Democrats are on track to flip the VA HoD despite the vicious gerrymander there.

I love underdog stories!

How do you think the GOP won the VA House of Delegates in the first place in 2000 after decades out of power?
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« Reply #564 on: November 07, 2017, 10:41:55 PM »

Poor Bramnick. He's a good man, but too close to Christie.

Bramnick will win despite the vicious gerrymander.

Kind of like how Democrats are on track to flip the VA HoD despite the vicious gerrymander there.

I love underdog stories!

How do you think the GOP won the VA House of Delegates in the first place in 2000 after decades out of power?

Ohhhh, I can't wait until Democrats gerrymander the living hell out of Virginia. Maybe they'll go on another 120-year run of complete control.
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« Reply #565 on: November 07, 2017, 10:42:53 PM »

Poor Bramnick. He's a good man, but too close to Christie.

Bramnick will win despite the vicious gerrymander.

Kind of like how Democrats are on track to flip the VA HoD despite the vicious gerrymander there.

I love underdog stories!

How do you think the GOP won the VA House of Delegates in the first place in 2000 after decades out of power?

Ohhhh, I can't wait until Democrats gerrymander the living hell out of Virginia. Maybe they'll go on another 120-year run of complete control.
Nah. Nonpartisan redistricting will be very high on the new Democratic legislatures to-do list.
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« Reply #566 on: November 07, 2017, 10:43:24 PM »

Poor Bramnick. He's a good man, but too close to Christie.

Bramnick will win despite the vicious gerrymander.

Kind of like how Democrats are on track to flip the VA HoD despite the vicious gerrymander there.

I love underdog stories!

How do you think the GOP won the VA House of Delegates in the first place in 2000 after decades out of power?

Ohhhh, I can't wait until Democrats gerrymander the living hell out of Virginia. Maybe they'll go on another 120-year run of complete control.
Nah. Nonpartisan redistricting will be very high on the new Democratic legislatures to-do list.

/sarcasm to trigger Krazen.
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« Reply #567 on: November 07, 2017, 10:43:37 PM »

Poor Bramnick. He's a good man, but too close to Christie.

Bramnick will win despite the vicious gerrymander.

Kind of like how Democrats are on track to flip the VA HoD despite the vicious gerrymander there.

I love underdog stories!

How do you think the GOP won the VA House of Delegates in the first place in 2000 after decades out of power?

I guess the same way Democrats won tonight.
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« Reply #568 on: November 07, 2017, 10:45:20 PM »

Most of what's out is still from blue counties. Should pad Murphy's margin enough where this won't be a complete embarrassment.
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« Reply #569 on: November 07, 2017, 10:48:27 PM »

Most of what's out is still from blue counties. Should pad Murphy's margin enough where this won't be a complete embarrassment.
Is this a complete embarrassment? I mean, he's winning by 13 points now.
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« Reply #570 on: November 07, 2017, 10:49:35 PM »

How do you think the GOP won the VA House of Delegates in the first place in 2000 after decades out of power?

Ohhhh, I can't wait until Democrats gerrymander the living hell out of Virginia. Maybe they'll go on another 120-year run of complete control.

They could, sure. There is no VRA preclearance anymore. They did so for over a century before.

But I can think of ways to retaliate.
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« Reply #571 on: November 07, 2017, 10:50:24 PM »

Most of what's out is still from blue counties. Should pad Murphy's margin enough where this won't be a complete embarrassment.
Is this a complete embarrassment? I mean, he's winning by 13 points now.

Not a surprise at all either, the polling for NJ gov has been remarkably consistent at Murphy +14 or so for most of the past year.   Hardly any polls showed in the +20 range.
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« Reply #572 on: November 07, 2017, 10:50:34 PM »
« Edited: November 07, 2017, 10:53:55 PM by Maxwell »

It's pretty amazing that a 13 or 14 point margin of victory is a complete embarrassment. I get it considering he was leading by over 20 points when the race started, but really, the last time a non-incumbent governor won by this much was Jim McGreevy all the way back in 2001. New Jersey seems fairly inelastic when you get down to it - Only when the Republican is the incumbent and very popular do they ever get more than 50% of the vote, and only when Democratic candidates suck badly do they get below 50%.

Only Christie's re-election and Tom Kean's re-election scored over 50% for a GOP candidate. Every other time, even when the GOP candidate won, it was under 50%.
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« Reply #573 on: November 07, 2017, 10:54:20 PM »

All Mayoral races can be called:

Mayor - Atlantic City - General
21 of 21 Precincts Reporting - 100%
Name   Party   Votes   Vote %
Gilliam, Frank   Dem   2,486   48%
Guardian, Don (i)   GOP   2,407   47%
Polillo, Joseph   Ind   133   3%
Green, Henry   Grn   107   2%

Mayor - Camden - General
37 of 40 Precincts Reporting - 93%
Name   Party   Votes   Vote %
   Moran, Frank   Dem   4,915   89%
Taylor, Jerome   Ind   440   8%
Lamberty, Tirson   Ind   138   3%

Mayor - Edison - General
72 of 78 Precincts Reporting - 92%
Name   Party   Votes   Vote %
   Lankey, Thomas (i)   Dem   9,321   57%
Hahn, Keith   GOP   6,997   43%

Mayor - Hoboken - General
20 of 20 Precincts Reporting - 100%
Name   Party   Votes   Vote %
   Bhalia, Ravinder   NP   4,781   34%
DeFusco, Michael   NP   4,116   29%
Giattino, Jen   NP   2,424   17%
Romano, Anthony   NP   2,254   16%
Nason, Karen   NP   225   2%
Bautista, Ronald   NP   193   1%

Mayor - Jersey City - General
45 of 50 Precincts Reporting - 90%
Name   Party   Votes   Vote %
   Fulop, Steve   NP   26,306   78%
Matsikoudis, Bill   NP   7,573   22%
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« Reply #574 on: November 07, 2017, 10:54:32 PM »

Most of what's out is still from blue counties. Should pad Murphy's margin enough where this won't be a complete embarrassment.
Is this a complete embarrassment? I mean, he's winning by 13 points now.

I'm projecting a bit. This is my last election living in the Garden State and was really hoping for something better than Generic D performance. Christie and Trump are despised here so it seems embarrassing NJ can't rebuke republicans better.
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