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« Reply #575 on: November 07, 2017, 10:43:24 pm »
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Poor Bramnick. He's a good man, but too close to Christie.

Bramnick will win despite the vicious gerrymander.

Kind of like how Democrats are on track to flip the VA HoD despite the vicious gerrymander there.

I love underdog stories!

How do you think the GOP won the VA House of Delegates in the first place in 2000 after decades out of power?

Ohhhh, I can't wait until Democrats gerrymander the living hell out of Virginia. Maybe they'll go on another 120-year run of complete control.
Nah. Nonpartisan redistricting will be very high on the new Democratic legislatures to-do list.

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« Reply #576 on: November 07, 2017, 10:43:37 pm »
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Poor Bramnick. He's a good man, but too close to Christie.

Bramnick will win despite the vicious gerrymander.

Kind of like how Democrats are on track to flip the VA HoD despite the vicious gerrymander there.

I love underdog stories!

How do you think the GOP won the VA House of Delegates in the first place in 2000 after decades out of power?

I guess the same way Democrats won tonight.
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« Reply #577 on: November 07, 2017, 10:45:20 pm »
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Most of what's out is still from blue counties. Should pad Murphy's margin enough where this won't be a complete embarrassment.
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« Reply #578 on: November 07, 2017, 10:48:27 pm »
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Most of what's out is still from blue counties. Should pad Murphy's margin enough where this won't be a complete embarrassment.
Is this a complete embarrassment? I mean, he's winning by 13 points now.
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« Reply #579 on: November 07, 2017, 10:49:35 pm »
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How do you think the GOP won the VA House of Delegates in the first place in 2000 after decades out of power?

Ohhhh, I can't wait until Democrats gerrymander the living hell out of Virginia. Maybe they'll go on another 120-year run of complete control.

They could, sure. There is no VRA preclearance anymore. They did so for over a century before.

But I can think of ways to retaliate.
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« Reply #580 on: November 07, 2017, 10:50:24 pm »
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Most of what's out is still from blue counties. Should pad Murphy's margin enough where this won't be a complete embarrassment.
Is this a complete embarrassment? I mean, he's winning by 13 points now.

Not a surprise at all either, the polling for NJ gov has been remarkably consistent at Murphy +14 or so for most of the past year.   Hardly any polls showed in the +20 range.
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« Reply #581 on: November 07, 2017, 10:50:34 pm »
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It's pretty amazing that a 13 or 14 point margin of victory is a complete embarrassment. I get it considering he was leading by over 20 points when the race started, but really, the last time a non-incumbent governor won by this much was Jim McGreevy all the way back in 2001. New Jersey seems fairly inelastic when you get down to it - Only when the Republican is the incumbent and very popular do they ever get more than 50% of the vote, and only when Democratic candidates suck badly do they get below 50%.

Only Christie's re-election and Tom Kean's re-election scored over 50% for a GOP candidate. Every other time, even when the GOP candidate won, it was under 50%.
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« Reply #582 on: November 07, 2017, 10:54:20 pm »
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All Mayoral races can be called:

Mayor - Atlantic City - General
21 of 21 Precincts Reporting - 100%
Name   Party   Votes   Vote %
Gilliam, Frank   Dem   2,486   48%
Guardian, Don (i)   GOP   2,407   47%
Polillo, Joseph   Ind   133   3%
Green, Henry   Grn   107   2%

Mayor - Camden - General
37 of 40 Precincts Reporting - 93%
Name   Party   Votes   Vote %
   Moran, Frank   Dem   4,915   89%
Taylor, Jerome   Ind   440   8%
Lamberty, Tirson   Ind   138   3%

Mayor - Edison - General
72 of 78 Precincts Reporting - 92%
Name   Party   Votes   Vote %
   Lankey, Thomas (i)   Dem   9,321   57%
Hahn, Keith   GOP   6,997   43%

Mayor - Hoboken - General
20 of 20 Precincts Reporting - 100%
Name   Party   Votes   Vote %
   Bhalia, Ravinder   NP   4,781   34%
DeFusco, Michael   NP   4,116   29%
Giattino, Jen   NP   2,424   17%
Romano, Anthony   NP   2,254   16%
Nason, Karen   NP   225   2%
Bautista, Ronald   NP   193   1%

Mayor - Jersey City - General
45 of 50 Precincts Reporting - 90%
Name   Party   Votes   Vote %
   Fulop, Steve   NP   26,306   78%
Matsikoudis, Bill   NP   7,573   22%
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« Reply #583 on: November 07, 2017, 10:54:32 pm »
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Most of what's out is still from blue counties. Should pad Murphy's margin enough where this won't be a complete embarrassment.
Is this a complete embarrassment? I mean, he's winning by 13 points now.

I'm projecting a bit. This is my last election living in the Garden State and was really hoping for something better than Generic D performance. Christie and Trump are despised here so it seems embarrassing NJ can't rebuke republicans better.
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« Reply #584 on: November 07, 2017, 10:54:37 pm »
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How do you think the GOP won the VA House of Delegates in the first place in 2000 after decades out of power?

Ohhhh, I can't wait until Democrats gerrymander the living hell out of Virginia. Maybe they'll go on another 120-year run of complete control.

They could, sure. There is no VRA preclearance anymore. They did so for over a century before.

But I can think of ways to retaliate.

Complaining on a message board like you do with New Jersey?
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« Reply #585 on: November 07, 2017, 10:56:17 pm »
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Mayor - Atlantic City - General
21 of 21 Precincts Reporting - 100%
Name   Party   Votes   Vote %
Gilliam, Frank   Dem   2,486   48%
Guardian, Don (i)   GOP   2,407   47%
Polillo, Joseph   Ind   133   3%
Green, Henry   Grn   107   2%


That's all the people that voted in Atlantic City?  Everything dies, baby, that's a fact, and some things stay dead!
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« Reply #586 on: November 07, 2017, 10:57:00 pm »
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How do you think the GOP won the VA House of Delegates in the first place in 2000 after decades out of power?

Ohhhh, I can't wait until Democrats gerrymander the living hell out of Virginia. Maybe they'll go on another 120-year run of complete control.

They could, sure. There is no VRA preclearance anymore. They did so for over a century before.

But I can think of ways to retaliate.

Complaining on a message board like you do with New Jersey?

Nah. Congress and Jeff Sessions can simply block Virginia from gerrymandering with legislation, among other things. We won the elections and have the keys of federal power.
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« Reply #587 on: November 07, 2017, 11:00:53 pm »
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How do you think the GOP won the VA House of Delegates in the first place in 2000 after decades out of power?

Ohhhh, I can't wait until Democrats gerrymander the living hell out of Virginia. Maybe they'll go on another 120-year run of complete control.

They could, sure. There is no VRA preclearance anymore. They did so for over a century before.

But I can think of ways to retaliate.

Complaining on a message board like you do with New Jersey?

Nah. Congress and Jeff Sessions can simply block Virginia from gerrymandering with legislation, among other things. We won the elections and have the keys of federal power.

Doesn't seem like your team knows how to use them.
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« Reply #588 on: November 07, 2017, 11:06:03 pm »
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How do you think the GOP won the VA House of Delegates in the first place in 2000 after decades out of power?

Ohhhh, I can't wait until Democrats gerrymander the living hell out of Virginia. Maybe they'll go on another 120-year run of complete control.

They could, sure. There is no VRA preclearance anymore. They did so for over a century before.

But I can think of ways to retaliate.

Complaining on a message board like you do with New Jersey?

Nah. Congress and Jeff Sessions can simply block Virginia from gerrymandering with legislation, among other things. We won the elections and have the keys of federal power.

Doesn't seem like your team knows how to use them.

Didn't the U.S Supreme Court rule that midterm redistricting was legal when Texas did it in 2003?
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« Reply #589 on: November 07, 2017, 11:11:19 pm »
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« Reply #590 on: November 07, 2017, 11:13:35 pm »
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You know what's interesting? It looks like Guadagno will take Somerset County, a county that went for Obama twice and Clinton last year. Along with this, she's outperformed Trump's performance.

So, really, I'm actually surprised this wasn't a harsher blow to her and the GOP.
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« Reply #591 on: November 07, 2017, 11:17:21 pm »
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You know what's interesting? It looks like Guadagno will take Somerset County, a county that went for Obama twice and Clinton last year. Along with this, she's outperformed Trump's performance.

So, really, I'm actually surprised this wasn't a harsher blow to her and the GOP.
Low turnout, lack of enthusiasm for Murphy.
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« Reply #592 on: November 07, 2017, 11:17:53 pm »
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You know what's interesting? It looks like Guadagno will take Somerset County, a county that went for Obama twice and Clinton last year. Along with this, she's outperformed Trump's performance.

So, really, I'm actually surprised this wasn't a harsher blow to her and the GOP.

There's still a hundred precincts outstanding, might change the result.
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« Reply #593 on: November 07, 2017, 11:21:05 pm »
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Nah. Congress and Jeff Sessions can simply block Virginia from gerrymandering with legislation, among other things. We won the elections and have the keys of federal power.

Doesn't seem like your team knows how to use them.

The gloves are going to come off soon once Mitch has packed the courts.
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« Reply #594 on: November 07, 2017, 11:22:57 pm »
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How do you think the GOP won the VA House of Delegates in the first place in 2000 after decades out of power?

Ohhhh, I can't wait until Democrats gerrymander the living hell out of Virginia. Maybe they'll go on another 120-year run of complete control.

They could, sure. There is no VRA preclearance anymore. They did so for over a century before.

But I can think of ways to retaliate.

Complaining on a message board like you do with New Jersey?

Nah. Congress and Jeff Sessions can simply block Virginia from gerrymandering with legislation, among other things. We won the elections and have the keys of federal power.

Guess we don't believe in state's rights anymore.
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« Reply #595 on: November 07, 2017, 11:24:01 pm »
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Clinton won by 14% & it is totally unrelated to downballot races & especially Gov races where opposite party can win & NJ had a 2 time GOP Gov.

It looks like Murphy is going to win by 14% odd, 12-14% was the polling result. Pretty good, Dems take NJ from the GOV & make big gains downballot. De Blasio also wins big in NY. Virginia was a very good performance.
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« Reply #596 on: November 07, 2017, 11:24:15 pm »
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Nah. Congress and Jeff Sessions can simply block Virginia from gerrymandering with legislation, among other things. We won the elections and have the keys of federal power.

Doesn't seem like your team knows how to use them.

The gloves are going to come off soon once Mitch has packed the courts.

Are the white hoods going to come off too?
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« Reply #597 on: November 07, 2017, 11:25:22 pm »
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« Reply #598 on: November 07, 2017, 11:26:53 pm »
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Nah. Congress and Jeff Sessions can simply block Virginia from gerrymandering with legislation, among other things. We won the elections and have the keys of federal power.

Guess we don't believe in state's rights anymore.

You think your party's tactics won't be used against your party?
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« Reply #599 on: November 07, 2017, 11:30:46 pm »
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How do you think the GOP won the VA House of Delegates in the first place in 2000 after decades out of power?

Ohhhh, I can't wait until Democrats gerrymander the living hell out of Virginia. Maybe they'll go on another 120-year run of complete control.

They could, sure. There is no VRA preclearance anymore. They did so for over a century before.

But I can think of ways to retaliate.

Knowing you, we're sure you can.

But hopefully cooler heads will dissuade you from vandalizing synagogues.
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