IN-NBC/WSJ/Marist: D: Clinton 50% Sanders 46%; R: Trump 49% Cruz 34% Kasich 13%

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My Indiana ratings:
Safe Trump
Safe Sanders

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Oh yeah, one other reason to think the NBC/WSJ poll might be an outlier: It shows Trump beating both Clinton (easily) AND Sanders H2H in Indiana in November. That also seems....unlikely.

Not really.  The voting base of Southern Indiana seems like a good fit for Trump.

I don't doubt that. But when polls show Trump in danger of losing Utah and Mississippi and North Carolina, and Arizona (and many more) to Clinton in a General, I have a hard time believing he's going to beat her by 8 in Indiana.

I'm not surprised. Hillary has a higher chance of beating Trump in Utah, North Carolina, Missouri, Georgia, and Arizona than she does in Indiana. Hillary could win the election nationwide by 10-30 points and she'd still lose Indiana. Trump is the perfect candidate for Indiana (unlike McCain).

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You guys are also forgetting about angry Indiana men. Angry sexist Indiana men would never vote Hillary. Bernie might win Indiana against Trump though. Bernie is a good fit for Indiana. He has the potential to appeal to many populist angry sexist Indiana men. Hillary is going to lose Indiana by double-digits though even if she wins nationwide by double-digits. The gender gap is going to be huge in Indiana, but angry sexist Indiana men will turnout at record levels, thus assuring a Trump victory in Indiana during the general election.

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You guys are also forgetting about angry Indiana men. Angry sexist Indiana men would never vote Hillary. Bernie might win Indiana against Trump though. Bernie is a good fit for Indiana. He has the potential to appeal to many populist angry sexist Indiana men. Hillary is going to lose Indiana by double-digits though even if she wins nationwide by double-digits. The gender gap is going to be huge in Indiana, but angry sexist Indiana men will turnout at record levels, thus assuring a Trump victory in Indiana during the general election.

What about this?

https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/state.php?fips=18&year=2008&f=0&off=0&elect=1

1. Her opponent was a black, you see.
2. A large majority of Democratic Party primary voters in Indiana are probably female. The gender split in Indiana during the general election is probably a lot more even.
3. The only reason why Obama narrowly won Indiana in 2008 was because McCain was the candidate. McCain was seen as a liberal, immigrant-lovin' RINO by most Republicans, thus a significant portion of angry Indiana men stayed home, so Obama narrowly won the state.

Hillary is crushing Trump by 8-15 point nationwide according to most polls.

Polls have shown Hillary beating TRUMP in North Carolina, Georgia, UTAH, Arizona, and Missouri, yet Trump still crushes Hillary in Indiana according to a recent poll.

This means that North Carolina, Georgia, Utah, Arizona, and Missouri are all more Democratic than Indiana. This means that Hillary could win the election by 8-15 points and still lose Indiana. The reason why Indiana has become a lot more Republican now than it was in 2008 is because all the angry and sexist Indiana men hate Hillary and love TRUMP.

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Or maybe, you know, the GA, NC, MO and UT polls were junk? Clinton is winning IN before she wins MO, UT or GA. Period. Early general election polls are useless as sh*t.

Lol no.

Why would Trump lose Indiana? He's literally the perfect fit for the state (unlike McCain). Indiana is full of low-information rust-belt whites who hate free trade and immigration. Trump is going to get these people to turnout at record levels. Indiana is full of angry men who will love Trump. Clinton is winning Utah, Georgia, and Missouri before she wins Indiana. Clinton is also winning Wyoming and Alabama before she wins Indiana.

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Trump has a higher chance of winning New Hampshire than losing Indiana.

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Or maybe, you know, the GA, NC, MO and UT polls were junk? Clinton is winning IN before she wins MO, UT or GA. Period. Early general election polls are useless as sh*t.

Lol no.

Why would Trump lose Indiana? He's literally the perfect fit for the state (unlike McCain). Indiana is full of low-information rust-belt whites who hate free trade and immigration. Trump is going to get these people to turnout at record levels. Indiana is full of angry men who will love Trump. Clinton is winning Utah, Georgia, and Missouri before she wins Indiana. Clinton is also winning Wyoming and Alabama before she wins Indiana.

Okay, so you're just trolling. Good to know.

Ok, I was joking about Alabama and Wyoming, but I am completely (100%) serious about Utah, Georgia, and Missouri. Trump is literally the perfect fit for Indiana. Indiana will massively trend towards Trump. Why would Trump lose Indiana? His populist message is perfect for this state.

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lol, this rings a bell.

I'm serious about this whole NH thing, though.

So you seriously believe that Hawaii and Vermont are more Democratic than New Hampshire?

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RR1997's Indiana obsession is as valid as your New Hampshire one.

No.

My obsession with Indiana is not as valid as TNVolunteer's obsession with NH. It is a lot more valid. Obama beat Romney 5 points in NH. Romney beat Obama by 10 points in Indiana. Despite the fact that Trump is down by 8-15 points nationwide, he's still ahead by a lot in Indiana. McCain lost Indiana because he was seen as a RINO by most conservatives there, so they stayed home. Trump should easily win Indiana.

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