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« on: May 03, 2016, 02:06:15 pm »

Democrats

Sanders: 45%
Clinton: 37%

Republicans

Trump: 61%
Cruz: 22%
Kasich: 14%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/05/trump-sanders-lead-in-west-virginia.html
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« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2016, 02:09:25 pm »

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Among the undecideds Sanders has a 15/77 favorability rating and Clinton's even worse off at 12/84 so there may end up being a decent mass of voters who just don't vote for either of the candidates.

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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2016, 02:14:22 pm »

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Among the undecideds Sanders has a 15/77 favorability rating and Clinton's even worse off at 12/84 so there may end up being a decent mass of voters who just don't vote for either of the candidates.

Woof!

I'm guessing that such voters are Old School type Democrats who proudly voted for Robert Byrd at every opportunity.
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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2016, 02:14:28 pm »

^^ Go Keith Judd!
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« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2016, 02:21:34 pm »

Are the 2 voters that Ben Kenobi knows that will definitely vote for Cruz included in this poll?
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« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2016, 02:27:20 pm »

wow... this is one state where they actually like Trump.
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« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2016, 02:32:05 pm »

Great news!

I wonder if the felon/prison inmate can crack 20%. #Juddmentum
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2016, 02:32:32 pm »

Would be interesting to see how Clinton's numbers are trending. Compared to a months' old poll, she's up, but it's hard to draw conclusions from that.

But if the double whammy of New York Tuesday and Pennsylvania Tuesday have given Hillary some momentum, she could be rising here and be in contention for the win.

I doubt it, but hey... who knows?
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« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2016, 02:32:52 pm »

Great news!

I wonder if the felon/prison inmate can crack 20%. #Juddmentum

Is O'Malley on the ballot? Because if so, O'Malleymentum is coming.
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« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2016, 02:36:18 pm »

Great news!

I wonder if the felon/prison inmate can crack 20%. #Juddmentum

Is O'Malley on the ballot? Because if so, O'Malleymentum is coming.

Nope. The people on the ballot are:

Hillary Clinton
Bernie Sanders
Rocky De La Fuente
Keith Judd
Paul T. Farrell Jr.

I think De La Fuente is probably too "ethnic" sounding to get many protest votes, so he shouldn't matter very much. But unfortunately, Judd and Farrell could split the protest vote, leading neither one to receive any delegates. Sad
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« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2016, 02:49:08 pm »

"The 18% of voters who are undecided is unusually high and speaks to the number of registered Democrats in West Virginia who don't really identify with the national party at this point. Among the undecideds Sanders has a 15/77 favorability rating and Clinton's even worse off at 12/84 so there may end up being a decent mass of voters who just don't vote for either of the candidates."

LOLz. Maybe the convict can get some delegates.
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« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2016, 02:50:36 pm »

What is wrong with this state?
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« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2016, 03:01:51 pm »

What is wrong with this state?

Well, what do Clinton and Sanders have to offer it, really?

Appalachian coal country's problems are so severe, so acute, and so different from those of most of the rest of the country that a Democratic campaign that was really interested in competing for its vote qua its vote would have to devote a great deal of time, attention, and energy specifically to crafting policies to help ameliorate those problems, and even more time, attention, and energy to selling those policies. Personally I think there should be somebody doing this (and would have hoped, in the past, that Sanders might), but that isn't how things are going this cycle.
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« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2016, 03:04:21 pm »

I wonder if the other candidates (not Clinton/Sanders) can get a higher percentage than what Sanders got in Mississippi.

West Virginia is going to be a Sanders enclave.
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« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2016, 03:05:27 pm »

"The 18% of voters who are undecided is unusually high and speaks to the number of registered Democrats in West Virginia who don't really identify with the national party at this point. Among the undecideds Sanders has a 15/77 favorability rating and Clinton's even worse off at 12/84 so there may end up being a decent mass of voters who just don't vote for either of the candidates."

LOLz. Maybe the convict can get some delegates.

I'd hope so, but with Paul Farrell on the ballot siphoning his votes, neither one will likely break the 15% threshold.
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« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2016, 03:11:46 pm »

New Poll: West Virginia President by Public Policy Polling on 2016-05-01

Summary:
Trump:
61%
Cruz:
22%
Kasich:
14%
Other:
0%
Undecided:
3%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details

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« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2016, 03:28:38 pm »

Appalachian coal country's problems are so severe, so acute, and so different from those of most of the rest of the country that a Democratic campaign that was really interested in competing for its vote qua its vote would have to devote a great deal of time, attention, and energy specifically to crafting policies to help ameliorate those problems, and even more time, attention, and energy to selling those policies. Personally I think there should be somebody doing this (and would have hoped, in the past, that Sanders might), but that isn't how things are going this cycle.

I know it's not the focus of this topic, but what are those acute issues? I definitely know that West Virginia is different, but why? My jump to, coal, doesn't look like it can be the main drive. From what I can glean on the topic it only employs around 30,000 people in a state where the total labor force is 785,500, and the unemployment rate is just slightly above the national average. Is that enough to drive the entire focus of the state to the point at which a third candidate stands a chance of getting such a large number of votes? What part am I missing here?
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« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2016, 03:37:36 pm »

Is there a write-in option?
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« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2016, 03:42:10 pm »

^^ Go Keith Judd!
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« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2016, 03:43:32 pm »

Is there a write-in option?

Yeah, but the person you're writing in has to have filed as a write-in candidate for the vote to be counted. Doesn't really matter though, people are perfectly willing to vote for Judd, he got >40% against Obama in the 2012 primary.
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« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2016, 03:54:55 pm »

Appalachian coal country's problems are so severe, so acute, and so different from those of most of the rest of the country that a Democratic campaign that was really interested in competing for its vote qua its vote would have to devote a great deal of time, attention, and energy specifically to crafting policies to help ameliorate those problems, and even more time, attention, and energy to selling those policies. Personally I think there should be somebody doing this (and would have hoped, in the past, that Sanders might), but that isn't how things are going this cycle.

I know it's not the focus of this topic, but what are those acute issues? I definitely know that West Virginia is different, but why? My jump to, coal, doesn't look like it can be the main drive. From what I can glean on the topic it only employs around 30,000 people in a state where the total labor force is 785,500, and the unemployment rate is just slightly above the national average. Is that enough to drive the entire focus of the state to the point at which a third candidate stands a chance of getting such a large number of votes? What part am I missing here?

The problem is that:

1. Non-coal parts of the state's labor force function (or functioned) in a manner ancillary to the coal industry and supporting it.
2. West Virginia's culture is hugely tied up in the values and mythology of the coal industry.
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« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2016, 05:56:11 pm »

More to the point coal used to employ hundreds of thousands (and steel rather a lot as well). The industrial parts of WV have been a social disaster for over thirty years now.
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« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2016, 08:20:03 pm »

West Virginians hate neat election maps evidently.
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« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2016, 08:44:08 pm »

Such classist attacks, without understanding West Virginian's thought of mind, or why they are being dissatisfied with the democratic party.
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« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2016, 10:05:16 pm »

Can he crack 80% now?
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