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« on: May 08, 2016, 08:22:03 pm »

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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2016, 08:31:42 pm »

If clinton is up 12 in NC and only down 1 in Georgia, she's doing better here than what the poll says.
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2016, 08:44:19 pm »

If clinton is up 12 in NC and only down 1 in Georgia, she's doing better here than what the poll says.

I'm about as bearish on Trump as possible, but there's no way he's down by 12 in NC.
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2016, 08:55:04 pm »

If clinton is up 12 in NC and only down 1 in Georgia, she's doing better here than what the poll says.

I'm about as bearish on Trump as possible, but there's no way he's down by 12 in NC.

He might be. It has the largest hispanic population in the south outside florida.
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2016, 11:16:52 pm »

We're assuming uniform swing. I think Trump might have relative strength in the northeast, and a fairly high ceiling. The Republicans there are far more united behind him than those in the Midwest or West.
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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2016, 11:26:56 pm »

Fourteen percent undecideds is a bit high for Massachusetts, but I'm guessing most of them will break for Hillary. Maybe it's the Bernie bots who are toying with the notion of voting for Jill Stein. Lol
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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2016, 11:58:30 pm »

We're assuming uniform swing. I think Trump might have relative strength in the northeast, and a fairly high ceiling. The Republicans there are far more united behind him than those in the Midwest or West.

I'm also guessing there's a bit of a dead cat bounce going on in all of the extremely red or blue states. 2012 was about as polarizing an election as we have seen in terms of number of states decided by single digits. A state that already votes 60+% for one party consistently probably isn't going to swing just because of the individual candidates on the ballot.
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2016, 12:53:11 am »

Could Trump do better in MA than in NH?
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2016, 12:57:03 am »

Could Trump do better in MA than in NH?

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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2016, 01:32:07 am »

New Poll: Massachusetts President by Suffolk University on 2016-05-05

Summary: D: 55%, R: 31%, U: 14%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2016, 01:59:42 am »

B-b-but TRUMP will make inroads with New England white men!

Could Trump do better in MA than in NH?

At this point, the only person who's listening to your ridiculous conspiracy theory is yourself.
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2016, 02:20:08 am »

I told you Clinton would be under 60 in MA.  This makes me really want to see NH and PA numbers.  Could Trump be within 5 or even up?

You realize this is the same margin Obama won MA by, right? She's "under 60" because there are 14% undecided.
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2016, 02:22:25 am »

I told you Clinton would be under 60 in MA.  This makes me really want to see NH and PA numbers.  Could Trump be within 5 or even up?

Sometimes, you can really tell when people are talking about states they've never been to.
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2016, 02:29:28 am »

If clinton is up 12 in NC and only down 1 in Georgia, she's doing better here than what the poll says.

Clinton is not up 12 in NC, or 9 for that matter. She is probably up 1 in GA though. PPP has a much better track record in the state.

If anything, I would say the Civitas poll is rigged to help promote #NeverTrump. It is a movement conservative organization.

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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2016, 02:36:39 am »

I told you Clinton would be under 60 in MA.  This makes me really want to see NH and PA numbers.  Could Trump be within 5 or even up?

Clinton is leading Trump by LBJ-like margins in NH polls. Expecting Trump to win NH is like expecting Vermont to vote for George Wallace.
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« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2016, 02:42:53 am »

I told you Clinton would be under 60 in MA.  This makes me really want to see NH and PA numbers.  Could Trump be within 5 or even up?

Clinton is leading Trump by LBJ-like margins in NH polls. Expecting Trump to win NH is like expecting Vermont to vote for George Wallace.

The problem with this argument is that only one New Hampshire poll has come out since February, and it had a 10-day sample.
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« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2016, 06:38:21 am »

All of the moderate heroes that I are undecided or voting for Trump. Trump has also secured the vote of my schools very old nun.
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« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2016, 06:45:09 am »

All of the moderate heroes that I are undecided or voting for Trump. Trump has also secured the vote of my schools very old nun.

oh well then
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« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2016, 09:11:01 am »

Oh well, I see that a lot of past Trump supporters, after trolling for almost one year with TRUMP and similar things, are now Hillary supporters. Not a big surprise.
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« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2016, 10:59:20 am »

Oh well, I see that a lot of past Trump supporters, after trolling for almost one year with TRUMP and similar things, are now Hillary supporters. Not a big surprise.

It was always clear that they were only ironic Trump supporters. I wonder how they will react if Trump DOES win in November, though? lol
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« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2016, 11:00:17 am »

Oh well, I see that a lot of past Trump supporters, after trolling for almost one year with TRUMP and similar things, are now Hillary supporters. Not a big surprise.

It was always clear that they were only ironic Trump supporters. I wonder how they will react when Trump wins in November, though? lol

Trump isn't winning in November (or in WI).
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« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2016, 11:01:08 am »

Oh well, I see that a lot of past Trump supporters, after trolling for almost one year with TRUMP and similar things, are now Hillary supporters. Not a big surprise.

It was always clear that they were only ironic Trump supporters. I wonder how they will react when Trump wins in November, though? lol

Trump isn't winning in November (or in WI).

Okay. lol
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« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2016, 11:02:05 am »

Oh well, I see that a lot of past Trump supporters, after trolling for almost one year with TRUMP and similar things, are now Hillary supporters. Not a big surprise.

It was always clear that they were only ironic Trump supporters. I wonder how they will react when Trump wins in November, though? lol

Trump isn't winning in November (or in WI).

Okay. lol

You can lol all you want, you are the one making baseless predictions contrary to all available evidence.
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« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2016, 07:23:10 pm »

If clinton is up 12 in NC and only down 1 in Georgia, she's doing better here than what the poll says.

I'm about as bearish on Trump as possible, but there's no way he's down by 12 in NC.

He might be. It has the largest hispanic population in the south outside florida.

That's not saying much.


Regardless, thank goodness we're getting polls out of key swing states like MA. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2016, 01:33:18 pm »

If clinton is up 12 in NC and only down 1 in Georgia, she's doing better here than what the poll says.

I'm about as bearish on Trump as possible, but there's no way he's down by 12 in NC.

He might be. It has the largest hispanic population in the south outside florida.
How many of the actually vote, though?
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