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« on: May 30, 2016, 11:03:43 PM »

Absolutely. Since when do liberals worship tradition and insist on keeping cultures segregated?
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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2016, 11:09:10 PM »

no its the dumb position
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2016, 11:23:32 PM »
« Edited: May 30, 2016, 11:26:04 PM by Green Line »

Considering that modern day liberals are the ones who b**** about it, Its clearly not a far right position.  

Minority sensitivities come before all else in modern day Liberalism (Unless you're Jewish).
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2016, 11:29:21 PM »

Considering that modern day liberals are the ones who b**** about it, Its clearly not a far right position.  

Minority sensitivities come before all else in modern day Liberalism (Unless you're Jewish).

Actually as I pointed out here American liberals are the people most likely to abandon culture and their heritage and throw it all away. American liberalism is all about the destruction and annihilation of culture.
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2016, 11:32:18 PM »

Considering that modern day liberals are the ones who b**** about it, Its clearly not a far right position.  

Minority sensitivities come before all else in modern day Liberalism (Unless you're Jewish).

Actually as I pointed out here American liberals are the people most likely to abandon culture and their heritage and throw it all away. American liberalism is all about the destruction and annihilation of culture.
Then why are you asking this question?
I can guarantee you the people in Mount Greenwood don't give a damn about cultural appropriation, but go to a liberal college campus and see what you find.
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2016, 11:37:18 PM »

Considering that modern day liberals are the ones who b**** about it, Its clearly not a far right position.  

Minority sensitivities come before all else in modern day Liberalism (Unless you're Jewish).

Actually as I pointed out here American liberals are the people most likely to abandon culture and their heritage and throw it all away. American liberalism is all about the destruction and annihilation of culture.
Then why are you asking this question?
I can guarantee you the people in Mount Greenwood don't give a damn about cultural appropriation, but go to a liberal college campus and see what you find.

Liberalism at my liberal college summarized:

"Let's get drunk"
"Let's get stoned"
"F[inks] Bush"
"End the war, out of Iraq!"
"Right wingers suck"

That was basically it.
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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2016, 11:38:48 PM »

Considering that modern day liberals are the ones who b**** about it, Its clearly not a far right position.  

Minority sensitivities come before all else in modern day Liberalism (Unless you're Jewish).

Actually as I pointed out here American liberals are the people most likely to abandon culture and their heritage and throw it all away. American liberalism is all about the destruction and annihilation of culture.
Then why are you asking this question?
I can guarantee you the people in Mount Greenwood don't give a damn about cultural appropriation, but go to a liberal college campus and see what you find.

Liberalism at my liberal college summarized:

"Let's get drunk"
"Let's get stoned"
"F[inks] Bush"
"End the war, out of Iraq!"
"Right wingers suck"

That was basically it.
Oh. Well I guess that's the final word on it.
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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2016, 12:25:00 AM »

the destruction and annihilation of culture.

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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2016, 03:33:39 AM »

Jesus Christ BRTD, if liberalism has descended to his, I'd rather be a f*king conservative. Yea, just get drunk and stoned Roll Eyes. Culture should of course be destroyed, and one's heritage is of course horrible, even if they don't play any part in oppression.

Cultural Appropriation is ridiculous though.
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2016, 03:37:52 AM »

Lol brtd
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2016, 08:42:43 AM »

No, it's at its core a flimsy way to punish white people for being evil by taking enjoyment of trivial things away from them. There's no actual philosophy behind it.
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« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2016, 08:50:24 AM »

I mean, the main trouble with it, is it that the phrase should have a "mis-" prefix before "appropriation". That would clarify some of the dumber aspects of the whole malarkey.
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« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2016, 08:52:28 AM »


Actually he didn't even really do that, since he was trying to get rid of foreign influence and all that.

Obviously the anti-culture stance of American hipsters is quite different
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« Reply #13 on: May 31, 2016, 09:00:08 AM »

I don't think most hipsters (however defined) would define themselves as anticulture. I mean you don't have the facial hair of an Edwardian gentleman if you have no interest in the past do you?
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« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2016, 09:05:14 AM »

I don't think most hipsters (however defined) would define themselves as anticulture. I mean you don't have the facial hair of an Edwardian gentleman if you have no interest in the past do you?

Yeah that's more my description but the hipster thing is different. The point is they don't care about THEIR OWN cultural heritage and don't really have any empathy for people who try to preserve it if that in any way contradicts liberal values and individualism. For example see the people who are 100% anti-Columbus Day and refuse to even take its importance to the Italian-American community into consideration. Burn it all to the ground.
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« Reply #15 on: May 31, 2016, 12:55:14 PM »

Nope, seeing this is one of the things that make me become deranged and withdraw myself to the far-right socially.
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« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2016, 01:01:26 PM »

It can be far-right: "Do not adopt the cultural habits of others, we must remain pure!"
Or it can be far-left: "Do not appropriate the culture of others, it robs them of their identity!"

Both are largely misguided.
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« Reply #17 on: May 31, 2016, 01:20:01 PM »

Neither. Culture in not property and therefore can not be "appropriated". Opponents of such things cut across ideological lines and are all imbeciles.
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« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2016, 02:13:16 PM »

Since I like to proudly call myself a leftist, I also often fall into the trap of declaring anything I don't like to be right-wing, so I can sympathize, but I still recognize that it's pretty stupid.

Anyway, as for whether opposing "cultural appropriation" is bad, it depends on the situation.
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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2016, 02:15:29 PM »

This is in fact a very good point BRTD brings up. This idea that you shouldn't adopt aspects of other cultures have usual belonged on the far right fringe. That a bunch of drooling morons on the left reach the same conclusion from the opposite POV, just show the complete lack of critical thinking some people have, and they should ridiculed and shamed for this stupidity until they become too ashamed to raise their voice in public again, saving us from having to waste time on their future stupid ideas.
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« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2016, 02:18:17 PM »

BRTD does have a glimmer of a point here, couched in his creepily black-and-white language, but as is so often the case CrabCake has the best of this thread so far.
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« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2016, 04:09:38 PM »

as someone whose culture is often appropriated by silly Americans (mostly, there are others but the majority are from the US) claiming heritage that they likely don't actually have, its funny more than anything else.  The thing that annoys me most is people commercialising Scottishness and making it all about clan tartans on shortbread tins; but its Scots folk doing that so its not really "appropriation" and the only way of really solving that would be ending capitalism, which would be a fun thing to try.

Its probably one of those political positions that's hard to put on the spectrum; people on the nationalist far-right don't like people from other places "stealing" their culture as well.

I mean, the main trouble with it, is it that the phrase should have a "mis-" prefix before "appropriation". That would clarify some of the dumber aspects of the whole malarkey.


no that's far too sensible, the only solution is to create one big world culture that everyone follows since diversity is a bad thing

But yeah there are right and wrong things to do these things and its all about respecting whatever culture you're dealing with, which is the decent thing to do anyway.
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« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2016, 05:27:46 PM »

No - opposing cultural appropriation (as far as I understand from my friends in the uni anti-racism society) is about opposing the misuse of aspects of minority cultures (I'm probably wording this very badly but oh well) by ignorant westerners, which fits in pretty neatly with the whole left-wing thing about supporting cultural minorities against western exploitation.
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« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2016, 05:35:50 PM »

I can see how complaints about cultural appropriation could be socially conservative, I guess, if they're tied up in the "Don't make us legalize gay marriage! It's against our culture!" nonsense.
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« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2016, 08:06:06 PM »

I don't know why, but I think it looks hilariously odd and lame when posters ask a question and then answer that question definitively in their OP, LOL.
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