PR-Pasquines: Clinton +34

[dspNY]

Clinton 64, Sanders 30 (was 65-34 last time). Poll taken from May 23-30

https://pasquines.us/2016/06/03/hillary-clinton-keeps-lead-over-bernie-sanders-in-puerto-rico-primary/

[Pragmatic Conservative]

Sounds about what I would expect.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Seems reasonable.

[Lief 🗽]

Clinton will be within 20 delegates of the nomination after this weekend. Majestic!

[IceSpear]

Clinton will be within 20 delegates of the nomination after this weekend. Majestic!

She'll only need like 20% of the vote in NJ to clinch. I wonder if they'll call it for her immediately, or wait until 1% is in first. lol

[Holmes]

A bunch of superdelegates can come out in support for her on Sunday and she'll clinch, but I kind of want it to happen after the polls close on Tuesday.

[Pragmatic Conservative]

Clinton will be within 20 delegates of the nomination after this weekend. Majestic!

She'll only need like 20% of the vote in NJ to clinch. I wonder if they'll call it for her immediately, or wait until 1% is in first. lol

I believe they called it for Obama before any votes were counted on the final primary day, however they had exit polls.

[IceSpear]

A bunch of superdelegates can come out in support for her on Sunday and she'll clinch, but I kind of want it to happen after the polls close on Tuesday.

Nah, that won't happen. There's no incentive. If anything she's probably telling any superdelegates to hold off to ensure the timing.

[IceSpear]

Clinton will be within 20 delegates of the nomination after this weekend. Majestic!

She'll only need like 20% of the vote in NJ to clinch. I wonder if they'll call it for her immediately, or wait until 1% is in first. lol

I believe they called it for Obama before any votes were counted on the final primary day, however they had exit polls.

Yeah, exactly. I've noticed they never call anything without exit polls, no matter how obvious the results are. They let states like Louisiana and Utah sit for quite a while before calling them. So they'll probably want some vote in first to "ensure" she gets above 20%, lol.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

Clinton will be within 20 delegates of the nomination after this weekend. Majestic!

She'll only need like 20% of the vote in NJ to clinch. I wonder if they'll call it for her immediately, or wait until 1% is in first. lol

I believe they called it for Obama before any votes were counted on the final primary day, however they had exit polls.

Yeah, exactly. I've noticed they never call anything without exit polls, no matter how obvious the results are. They let states like Louisiana and Utah sit for quite a while before calling them. So they'll probably want some vote in first to "ensure" she gets above 20%, lol.

Something that I'm not completely ruling out is some of the networks not calling the nomination until CA polls close. MSNBC has an ambitious decision desk and is quite pro-Hillary, so they'll call it, but I could easily see Wolf Blitzer saying something along the lines of "Out of respect to the Sanders campaign and to avoid influencing the election, CNN will not call the nomination until polls have closed in all states.".

Also, using the CNN delegate count as the starting point, the minimum Clinton % needed in New Jersey, giving Clinton a 5-2 allocation in the virgin islands and a 64-36 win in PR, is a ridiculously easy 21.5%.

[Holmes]

Wolf Blitzer didn't do that for Clinton in 2008 when the race was much closer. They called the nomination for Obama after South Dakota closed, even though their exit polling showed him losing the state. And they always call the winner of the electoral college (and Presidential election) the moment someone passes 270, even if not all polls in the country have closed. There's really no precedent for the media feeling bad for the losing candidate and not calling a race when someone's won.

[Ebsy]

Wolf Blitzer didn't do that for Clinton in 2008 when the race was much closer. They called the nomination for Obama after South Dakota closed, even though their exit polling showed him losing the state. And they always call the winner of the electoral college (and Presidential election) the moment someone passes 270, even if not all polls in the country have closed.

Yeah, I think they'll all call it before California closes. What else will they talk about for a couple of hours?

[Pragmatic Conservative]

Wolf Blitzer didn't do that for Clinton in 2008 when the race was much closer. They called the nomination for Obama after South Dakota closed, even though their exit polling showed him losing the state. And they always call the winner of the electoral college (and Presidential election) the moment someone passes 270, even if not all polls in the country have closed.

Yeah, I think they'll all call it before California closes. What else will they talk about for a couple of hours?

Wolf Blitzer didn't do that for Clinton in 2008 when the race was much closer. They called the nomination for Obama after South Dakota closed, even though their exit polling showed him losing the state. And they always call the winner of the electoral college (and Presidential election) the moment someone passes 270, even if not all polls in the country have closed.

Yeah, I think they'll all call it before California closes. What else will they talk about for a couple of hours?

Why would they wait, networks don't want to be behind in their calls or news. They generally pride themselves on beeing the first to call an election.

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Wolf Blitzer didn't do that for Clinton in 2008 when the race was much closer. They called the nomination for Obama after South Dakota closed, even though their exit polling showed him losing the state. And they always call the winner of the electoral college (and Presidential election) the moment someone passes 270, even if not all polls in the country have closed. There's really no precedent for the media feeling bad for the losing candidate and not calling a race when someone's won.

Key word, after. That's different.

[Xing]

Wolf Blitzer didn't do that for Clinton in 2008 when the race was much closer. They called the nomination for Obama after South Dakota closed, even though their exit polling showed him losing the state. And they always call the winner of the electoral college (and Presidential election) the moment someone passes 270, even if not all polls in the country have closed. There's really no precedent for the media feeling bad for the losing candidate and not calling a race when someone's won.

That's a fair point, though the only other state that had yet to close was Montana that year, and it closed an hour after South Dakota. This time around, an early call might impact the race in California, since New Jersey closes three hours before it, and there are millions voting there, not to mention four other states which are also voting. I'm not saying they'll wait, but that's how they might justify it.

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Clinton will be within 20 delegates of the nomination after this weekend. Majestic!

She'll only need like 20% of the vote in NJ to clinch. I wonder if they'll call it for her immediately, or wait until 1% is in first. lol

I believe they called it for Obama before any votes were counted on the final primary day, however they had exit polls.

Yeah, exactly. I've noticed they never call anything without exit polls, no matter how obvious the results are. They let states like Louisiana and Utah sit for quite a while before calling them. So they'll probably want some vote in first to "ensure" she gets above 20%, lol.

Something that I'm not completely ruling out is some of the networks not calling the nomination until CA polls close. MSNBC has an ambitious decision desk and is quite pro-Hillary, so they'll call it, but I could easily see Wolf Blitzer saying something along the lines of "Out of respect to the Sanders campaign and to avoid influencing the election, CNN will not call the nomination until polls have closed in all states.".

Also, using the CNN delegate count as the starting point, the minimum Clinton % needed in New Jersey, giving Clinton a 5-2 allocation in the virgin islands and a 64-36 win in PR, is a ridiculously easy 21.5%.

The MSNBC desk is not pro-Hillary, they're just usually quick to make calls... for anyone.

[Crumpets]

I can't wait to see Reddit's reaction between NJ polls closing and CA polls closing.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

I can't wait to see Reddit's reaction between NJ polls closing and CA polls closing.

Imagine this: r/sandersforpresident literally calling into networks to insult them over counting super delegate endorsements.

[Chief Justice Keef]

After the VI caucus today, this is looking pretty accurate.

[Xing]

Looks like this was a little too favorable for Clinton, but kudos to them for having the courage to actually publish a PR poll. I doubt any of the major polling companies would have done any better.

[Fusionmunster]

Looks like this was a little too favorable for Clinton, but kudos to them for having the courage to actually publish a PR poll. I doubt any of the major polling companies would have done any better.

They couldnt have possibly known turnout would have been as low as it was.