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« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2016, 02:16:38 PM »

Looks like Trump's comments on the judge haven't hurt him

This was in the field June 2-5. The GOP started to disavow him yesterday and the media has really started to focus on this story.
The media will find another shiny object tomorrow, if his past comments didn't hurt him this won't
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« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2016, 02:17:14 PM »

I swear to god the "muh bernie voters hurting hillary" is approaching unskew level stupidity.

Trump got a bump upon clinching the nomination. Do you really think Hillary won't as well?
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« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2016, 02:17:59 PM »

Embarrassing for Her Highness!  Hopefully she wises up and realizes the only choice is to bow to the Berniecrats' wishes.  UNIVERSE HEALTHCARE, HARPY!  Or we shall feed this country to the wolf.

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« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2016, 02:19:31 PM »

Florida is becoming as hard to poll as Nevada and Colorado...Hispanics will be more than 15% of the electorate.
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« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2016, 02:20:37 PM »

Not feeling too confident in America's ability to not elect Donald Trump.

You never should have been. Hillary is the favorite, but Trump could very well win.
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« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2016, 02:21:15 PM »

Looks like Trump's comments on the judge haven't hurt him

This was in the field June 2-5. The GOP started to disavow him yesterday and the media has really started to focus on this story.
The media will find another shiny object tomorrow, if his past comments didn't hurt him this won't

His past comments have hurt him. That's why he's behind her in the polls/electoral college.

His comments against the Indiana judge is the first time the GOP is across the board, denouncing his racism, even recanting their support (Graham/Rubio).
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« Reply #31 on: June 07, 2016, 02:21:47 PM »

Looks like Trump's comments on the judge haven't hurt him

This was in the field June 2-5. The GOP started to disavow him yesterday and the media has really started to focus on this story.
The media will find another shiny object tomorrow, if his past comments didn't hurt him this won't

People are insane if they think these comments will significantly hurt him. We're really going back to "THIS is the end of Trump! Really, this time it's true!" again? Roll Eyes
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« Reply #32 on: June 07, 2016, 02:22:01 PM »

Bernie's fault, but yes, this will be close.

Stop.
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« Reply #33 on: June 07, 2016, 02:23:10 PM »

Looks like Trump's comments on the judge haven't hurt him

This was in the field June 2-5. The GOP started to disavow him yesterday and the media has really started to focus on this story.
The media will find another shiny object tomorrow, if his past comments didn't hurt him this won't

His past comments have hurt him. That's why he's behind her in the polls/electoral college.

His comments against the Indiana judge is the first time the GOP is across the board, denouncing his racism, even recanting their support (Graham/Rubio).
I agree that it reflects badly on your savior that she's tied with him, but I think you will find that nobody will care anymore by next week, sorry but it's what has happened so far
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« Reply #34 on: June 07, 2016, 02:25:08 PM »

Trump's behind in the electoral college because nobody wants to elect a Republican, not because of any fault of his own.
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« Reply #35 on: June 07, 2016, 02:27:59 PM »

Not true. Kasich/Rubio led Clinton.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/05/politics/gop-fears-donald-trump-judge-attack/index.html

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His stupid comments are making donors realize what a waste investing in him is, which definitely hurts him because he's not that rich apparently. This is not the 1 thing that will destroy him, but his many stupid offenses have built him up to be the most unfavorable candidate of all time.
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« Reply #36 on: June 07, 2016, 02:31:27 PM »

I mean, Hillary will probably get a bounce in the next week or so, but what happens if that bounce goes away? FL is ground zero for this election, and a test to see how much Trump has been damaged among Latinos. Latinos in FL are usually less Democratic leaning than they are in the Southwest, but if he loses them in FL by a 50-point margin, he's toast. Anyway, FL should be competitive.
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« Reply #37 on: June 07, 2016, 02:31:40 PM »

We're living in a nightmare
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« Reply #38 on: June 07, 2016, 02:38:17 PM »

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/fl/florida_romney_vs_obama-1883.html

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/fl/florida_mccain_vs_obama-418.html

Both averages within the margin of error, with Romney having a +1.5 average. McCain was mostly ahead all the way until the end of September, while Romney and Obama constantly switched off. In the end, Obama won both times.

In the past generation, Florida has almost always been close, so I don't think anyone should be claiming advantages in FL unless their polls show them constantly leading by gaping margins.
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« Reply #39 on: June 07, 2016, 02:50:22 PM »

Trump's behind in the electoral college because nobody wants to elect a Republican, not because of any fault of his own.
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« Reply #40 on: June 07, 2016, 03:33:32 PM »

One thing that nobody can deny -- Donald Trump riles people up. Multitudes like to be riled up.


...Romney led in Florida up to the last week. Hillary Clinton cannot lose if she wins Florida, but she can win without it. That's how things were in 2008 and 2012, too. 
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« Reply #41 on: June 07, 2016, 03:52:01 PM »

Inclined to say Mason Dixon's # of Trump at 20% of Hispanics is more accurate than this landline poll.
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« Reply #42 on: June 07, 2016, 04:35:13 PM »


You're the one who rates Murphy vs. Jolly/CLC/DeSantis Safe D.....
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« Reply #43 on: June 07, 2016, 04:52:40 PM »


You're the one who rates Murphy vs. Jolly/CLC/DeSantis Safe D.....

The Senate race is Safe D IMO (The FL GOP is too incompetent to hold this seat), but the presidential race is obviously a Tossup.

Describe a Trump/Murphy Voter.
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« Reply #44 on: June 07, 2016, 04:58:42 PM »

What doesn't surprise me is that we are getting a tossup poll from Florida at this point in the race, what does surprise me is that there is almost 20% undecided in a state that Bernie did not perform particularly well in, and Trump dominated everywhere but Dade county.

It sounds like the famous Florida independents are so far not especially enthused with their major party choices, and PPP didn't push respondents since it is still early in the GE season and pollsters won't start working towards LV models and pushing undeciders until after the conventions.
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« Reply #45 on: June 07, 2016, 05:40:15 PM »

MAKE MURICA GR8 AGAIN!!!1
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« Reply #46 on: June 07, 2016, 05:41:56 PM »

I doubt the undecideds are because of Bernie as much as both candidates are so unpalatable that a lot of people simply can't/don't want to make up their minds/don't know if they'll actually vote.
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« Reply #47 on: June 07, 2016, 06:32:46 PM »

PPP had many polls like Washington state where they underestimated Obama big time in 2012.
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« Reply #48 on: June 07, 2016, 06:35:06 PM »

I doubt the undecideds are because of Bernie as much as both candidates are so unpalatable that a lot of people simply can't/don't want to make up their minds/don't know if they'll actually vote.

See the actual poll - 11% undecided without 3rd parties
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« Reply #49 on: June 07, 2016, 11:52:56 PM »

What doesn't surprise me is that we are getting a tossup poll from Florida at this point in the race, what does surprise me is that there is almost 20% undecided in a state that Bernie did not perform particularly well in, and Trump dominated everywhere but Dade county.

It sounds like the famous Florida independents are so far not especially enthused with their major party choices, and PPP didn't push respondents since it is still early in the GE season and pollsters won't start working towards LV models and pushing undeciders until after the conventions.

The undecideds are the Never Trump Hispanics, other Never Trump and some Bernie supporters. We have to wait some more to know for sure where Florida goes.
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