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« Reply #50 on: June 14, 2016, 05:30:16 pm »

LOL, look at the age 18-34 crosstab:

Johnson 32
Clinton 26
Trump 16
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« Reply #51 on: June 14, 2016, 06:38:12 pm »

LOL, look at the age 18-34 crosstab:

Johnson 32
Clinton 26
Trump 16

What a time to be alive...
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« Reply #52 on: June 14, 2016, 06:42:11 pm »

LOL, look at the age 18-34 crosstab:

Johnson 32
Clinton 26
Trump 16

ROFLMAO
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« Reply #53 on: June 14, 2016, 08:54:21 pm »

LOL, look at the age 18-34 crosstab:

Johnson 32
Clinton 26
Trump 16

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« Reply #54 on: June 14, 2016, 10:45:07 pm »

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If these polls in Utah continue to show a close race, Arizona will certainly be in play.

AZ will be solid Hillary if UT is in play. I may have to adjust my forecast.
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« Reply #55 on: June 14, 2016, 11:03:55 pm »

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If these polls in Utah continue to show a close race, Arizona will certainly be in play.

AZ will be solid Hillary if UT is in play. I may have to adjust my forecast.

The whites in Arizona appear to be more racist/supportive of Trump's building of a wall versus the "Jesus would welcome these people with open arms" Mormons in Utah (which is true). That's the difference.
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« Reply #56 on: June 14, 2016, 11:36:58 pm »

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If these polls in Utah continue to show a close race, Arizona will certainly be in play.

AZ will be solid Hillary if UT is in play. I may have to adjust my forecast.

The whites in Arizona appear to be more racist/supportive of Trump's building of a wall versus the "Jesus would welcome these people with open arms" Mormons in Utah (which is true). That's the difference.

Hence why McCain bent the knee.
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« Reply #57 on: June 15, 2016, 08:47:14 am »

The whites in Arizona appear to be more racist/supportive of Trump's building of a wall versus the "Jesus would welcome these people with open arms" Mormons in Utah (which is true). That's the difference.

But is that true of the subset of Arizona whites who are Mormon?
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« Reply #58 on: June 15, 2016, 12:31:51 pm »

The whites in Arizona appear to be more racist/supportive of Trump's building of a wall versus the "Jesus would welcome these people with open arms" Mormons in Utah (which is true). That's the difference.

But is that true of the subset of Arizona whites who are Mormon?

Depends on the Mormon; on the one hand you've got Russell Pearce, the former President of the Arizona State Senate, an odious guy who was responsible for the "papers please" law, and who affiliated with (and baptized into the LDS Church at least one) Neo-Nazis. His sons are also into the hardcore anti-immigration (and at this point its not just anti-illegal immigration) crowd.

On the other you've got Jerry Lewis (not the comedian), the State Senator who replaced Pearce when he was recalled, someone just as conservative, but less nightmarishly bigoted on immigration and so forth, and who was practically endorsed by the LDS Church.

Overall, I'd say Arizona Mormons tend to be more hardline on immigration than Utah Mormons, but there are exceptions.
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« Reply #59 on: June 15, 2016, 10:03:16 pm »

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The whites in Arizona appear to be more racist/supportive of Trump's building of a wall versus the "Jesus would welcome these people with open arms" Mormons in Utah (which is true). That's the difference.

If he's tied in UT, he's lost Arizona. 14 percent among Hispanics and holding level with Mitt means a loss.
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« Reply #60 on: June 16, 2016, 12:45:05 am »

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The whites in Arizona appear to be more racist/supportive of Trump's building of a wall versus the "Jesus would welcome these people with open arms" Mormons in Utah (which is true). That's the difference.

If he's tied in UT, he's lost Arizona. 14 percent among Hispanics and holding level with Mitt means a loss.

I get that, but at the end of the day, does anyone really expect HILLARY CLINTON to win UTAH?! I'm one of the biggest Hillary hacks on here (hiyeeeee IceSpear) and not even I see that happening. Utahns will eventually come home to roost in November, but Trump will almost assuredly do much worse than Romney. I see a 5-10 point victory, maybe more if Johnson siphons enough votes from the #NeverTrump crowd of Mormons who are that sincere in their rejection of Trump.
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« Reply #61 on: June 16, 2016, 01:43:01 am »

LOL, look at the age 18-34 crosstab:

Johnson 32
Clinton 26
Trump 16

What a time to be alive...

Wow---- there are still 26% remaining.... was Bernie included as a write-in option in this poll? Wink
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