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« on: June 13, 2016, 11:35:34 am »
« edited: June 13, 2016, 11:37:43 am by Ebsy »

https://www.scribd.com/doc/315390860/MoveOn-WI-Senate-Survey-Results

Fiengold: 51
Johnson: 41
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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2016, 11:41:37 am »

Internal poll ---> Trash
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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2016, 11:44:39 am »

Wulfic post ---> Trash
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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2016, 12:03:23 pm »

At this point, Democrats are basically guaranteed to win FL, WI, IL and NH. Looks like the GOP will have to win every other competitive race (definitely possible) and win NV (possible, but difficult) if they don't want to lose the Senate. But right now, Democrats are favored to retake the Senate.

"If Republicans want to hold the majority, they need to win more seats than the Democrats"
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2016, 12:09:24 pm »

At this point, Democrats are basically guaranteed to win FL, WI, IL and NH. Looks like the GOP will have to win every other competitive race (definitely possible) and win NV (possible, but difficult) if they don't want to lose the Senate. But right now, Democrats are favored to retake the Senate.
I don't think if you agree with me or not on what I will say but I now believe it is definitely possible the dems retake the senate and that trump could pull a narrow win: unlikely but it was unbelievable before.

My prediction, the democrats pick up 7 seats, I believe they are clearly favored to win the 6 seats more favourable to them, for the 7th seat (AZ, MO, IA, NC,...), I believe individually each gop candidate is favored to be reelected (that can change) but that the probably is higher than at least 1 of them is defeated than all of them reelected.
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2016, 12:15:09 pm »

Buh-bye, Ron. Won't miss you.
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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2016, 12:20:14 pm »

Interesting exact same numbers as the Wisconsin Public Radio/St. Norbert poll in April.
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2016, 12:52:49 pm »

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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2016, 12:59:40 pm »


It's a fact that internal polls are carefully manipulated to please the cilent.
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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2016, 02:54:34 pm »


And we all know that's how PPP earned its reputation as one of the best pollsters: by making up numbers to please Democrats.
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2016, 02:57:58 pm »


And we all know that's how PPP earned its reputation as one of the best pollsters: by making up numbers to please Democrats.
This set of polls was the result of moveon.org hiring PPP, right? Normally I think PPP is excellent, accurate, and unbiased, but here, a partisan organization hired them to produce biased results.
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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2016, 03:08:33 pm »

What is the basis for calling this trash? I don't have a position on this either way, but I'd like to know the justification behind it. It can't just be "internal polls like this are biased", because it should go without saying that such an argument is not a logical justification.
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2016, 03:25:51 pm »


And it's a fact that Wulfric posts are carefully manipulated to please nobody.
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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2016, 03:36:41 pm »

At this point, Democrats are basically guaranteed to win FL, WI, IL and NH. Looks like the GOP will have to win every other competitive race (definitely possible) and win NV (possible, but difficult) if they don't want to lose the Senate. But right now, Democrats are favored to retake the Senate.

"If Republicans want to hold the majority, they need to win more seats than the Democrats"

My point is that there is only one path for them right now. Also, put me on ignore if my posts bother you so much.

You act like I haven't had you on ignore for like a year now.
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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2016, 07:48:34 pm »

Seems about right. Johnson is pretty much doomed unless Trump wins nationally by like 10.

At this point, Democrats are basically guaranteed to win FL, WI, IL and NH. Looks like the GOP will have to win every other competitive race (definitely possible) and win NV (possible, but difficult) if they don't want to lose the Senate. But right now, Democrats are favored to retake the Senate.
I don't think if you agree with me or not on what I will say but I now believe it is definitely possible the dems retake the senate and that trump could pull a narrow win: unlikely but it was unbelievable before.

My prediction, the democrats pick up 7 seats, I believe they are clearly favored to win the 6 seats more favourable to them, for the 7th seat (AZ, MO, IA, NC,...), I believe individually each gop candidate is favored to be reelected (that can change) but that the probably is higher than at least 1 of them is defeated than all of them reelected.

Except the Democrats aren't clearly favored to pick up 6 seats, they're clearly favored to pick up 2: WI and IL. The rest are at least somewhat ambiguous (FL, NH) or the Republican is more likely to win (OH, PA).
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« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2016, 08:05:44 pm »

Seems about right. Johnson is pretty much doomed unless Trump wins nationally by like 10.

At this point, Democrats are basically guaranteed to win FL, WI, IL and NH. Looks like the GOP will have to win every other competitive race (definitely possible) and win NV (possible, but difficult) if they don't want to lose the Senate. But right now, Democrats are favored to retake the Senate.
I don't think if you agree with me or not on what I will say but I now believe it is definitely possible the dems retake the senate and that trump could pull a narrow win: unlikely but it was unbelievable before.

My prediction, the democrats pick up 7 seats, I believe they are clearly favored to win the 6 seats more favourable to them, for the 7th seat (AZ, MO, IA, NC,...), I believe individually each gop candidate is favored to be reelected (that can change) but that the probably is higher than at least 1 of them is defeated than all of them reelected.

Except the Democrats aren't clearly favored to pick up 6 seats, they're clearly favored to pick up 2: WI and IL. The rest are at least somewhat ambiguous (FL, NH) or the Republican is more likely to win (OH, PA).
Portman and Toomey arent going to survive if Clinton carries their state which is likely.
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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2016, 08:09:48 pm »

Seems about right. Johnson is pretty much doomed unless Trump wins nationally by like 10.

At this point, Democrats are basically guaranteed to win FL, WI, IL and NH. Looks like the GOP will have to win every other competitive race (definitely possible) and win NV (possible, but difficult) if they don't want to lose the Senate. But right now, Democrats are favored to retake the Senate.
I don't think if you agree with me or not on what I will say but I now believe it is definitely possible the dems retake the senate and that trump could pull a narrow win: unlikely but it was unbelievable before.

My prediction, the democrats pick up 7 seats, I believe they are clearly favored to win the 6 seats more favourable to them, for the 7th seat (AZ, MO, IA, NC,...), I believe individually each gop candidate is favored to be reelected (that can change) but that the probably is higher than at least 1 of them is defeated than all of them reelected.

Except the Democrats aren't clearly favored to pick up 6 seats, they're clearly favored to pick up 2: WI and IL. The rest are at least somewhat ambiguous (FL, NH) or the Republican is more likely to win (OH, PA).
Portman and Toomey arent going to survive if Clinton carries their state which is likely.

Every poll out there shows  Toomey running ahead of Trump, and McGinty is a terrible candidate. PA is likely R.
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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2016, 11:08:30 pm »

Seems about right. Johnson is pretty much doomed unless Trump wins nationally by like 10.

At this point, Democrats are basically guaranteed to win FL, WI, IL and NH. Looks like the GOP will have to win every other competitive race (definitely possible) and win NV (possible, but difficult) if they don't want to lose the Senate. But right now, Democrats are favored to retake the Senate.
I don't think if you agree with me or not on what I will say but I now believe it is definitely possible the dems retake the senate and that trump could pull a narrow win: unlikely but it was unbelievable before.

My prediction, the democrats pick up 7 seats, I believe they are clearly favored to win the 6 seats more favourable to them, for the 7th seat (AZ, MO, IA, NC,...), I believe individually each gop candidate is favored to be reelected (that can change) but that the probably is higher than at least 1 of them is defeated than all of them reelected.

Except the Democrats aren't clearly favored to pick up 6 seats, they're clearly favored to pick up 2: WI and IL. The rest are at least somewhat ambiguous (FL, NH) or the Republican is more likely to win (OH, PA).
Portman and Toomey arent going to survive if Clinton carries their state which is likely.

Every poll out there shows  Toomey running ahead of Trump, and McGinty is a terrible candidate. PA is likely R.

I hate all your posts.
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« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2016, 11:15:42 pm »
« Edited: June 13, 2016, 11:17:15 pm by Dwarven Dragon »

Seems about right. Johnson is pretty much doomed unless Trump wins nationally by like 10.

At this point, Democrats are basically guaranteed to win FL, WI, IL and NH. Looks like the GOP will have to win every other competitive race (definitely possible) and win NV (possible, but difficult) if they don't want to lose the Senate. But right now, Democrats are favored to retake the Senate.
I don't think if you agree with me or not on what I will say but I now believe it is definitely possible the dems retake the senate and that trump could pull a narrow win: unlikely but it was unbelievable before.

My prediction, the democrats pick up 7 seats, I believe they are clearly favored to win the 6 seats more favourable to them, for the 7th seat (AZ, MO, IA, NC,...), I believe individually each gop candidate is favored to be reelected (that can change) but that the probably is higher than at least 1 of them is defeated than all of them reelected.

Except the Democrats aren't clearly favored to pick up 6 seats, they're clearly favored to pick up 2: WI and IL. The rest are at least somewhat ambiguous (FL, NH) or the Republican is more likely to win (OH, PA).
Portman and Toomey arent going to survive if Clinton carries their state which is likely.

Every poll out there shows  Toomey running ahead of Trump, and McGinty is a terrible candidate. PA is likely R.

I hate all your posts.

Ah, it's the old "I actually don't have a counterargument, so I'll just bash the other party to disguise my inability to argue the point.".

Toomey won re-election the moment democrats decided to nominate a political neophyte due to old grudges. She only won the primary because "Obama endorsed me!" gets you lots of "free" votes in a democrats-only contest. It doesn't work that way in the general.
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« Reply #19 on: June 13, 2016, 11:42:46 pm »

Lol, someone needs to look after "AngryGreatness". Looks like he's having a meltdown.

Two snide remarks against this forum's two most annoying posters does not a meltdown make.
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« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2016, 01:01:10 am »

If this works out, I'm really looking forward to the Udall-Gardner re-match in 2020!
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« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2016, 01:23:24 am »

If this works out, I'm really looking forward to the Udall-Gardner re-match in 2020!

If colorado actually votes to have a senator that quite frankly loves abortion despite rejecting him six years earlier, I will lose any and all positive feelings toward the state.
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« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2016, 07:17:24 am »

Seems about right. Johnson is pretty much doomed unless Trump wins nationally by like 10.

At this point, Democrats are basically guaranteed to win FL, WI, IL and NH. Looks like the GOP will have to win every other competitive race (definitely possible) and win NV (possible, but difficult) if they don't want to lose the Senate. But right now, Democrats are favored to retake the Senate.
I don't think if you agree with me or not on what I will say but I now believe it is definitely possible the dems retake the senate and that trump could pull a narrow win: unlikely but it was unbelievable before.

My prediction, the democrats pick up 7 seats, I believe they are clearly favored to win the 6 seats more favourable to them, for the 7th seat (AZ, MO, IA, NC,...), I believe individually each gop candidate is favored to be reelected (that can change) but that the probably is higher than at least 1 of them is defeated than all of them reelected.

Except the Democrats aren't clearly favored to pick up 6 seats, they're clearly favored to pick up 2: WI and IL. The rest are at least somewhat ambiguous (FL, NH) or the Republican is more likely to win (OH, PA).
Portman and Toomey arent going to survive if Clinton carries their state which is likely.

Every poll out there shows  Toomey running ahead of Trump, and McGinty is a terrible candidate. PA is likely R.
The fact that he's only +1-+3 doesnt make that likely rep. I expect Trump to kill them in the end.
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« Reply #23 on: June 14, 2016, 07:29:58 am »

Seems about right. Johnson is pretty much doomed unless Trump wins nationally by like 10.

At this point, Democrats are basically guaranteed to win FL, WI, IL and NH. Looks like the GOP will have to win every other competitive race (definitely possible) and win NV (possible, but difficult) if they don't want to lose the Senate. But right now, Democrats are favored to retake the Senate.
I don't think if you agree with me or not on what I will say but I now believe it is definitely possible the dems retake the senate and that trump could pull a narrow win: unlikely but it was unbelievable before.

My prediction, the democrats pick up 7 seats, I believe they are clearly favored to win the 6 seats more favourable to them, for the 7th seat (AZ, MO, IA, NC,...), I believe individually each gop candidate is favored to be reelected (that can change) but that the probably is higher than at least 1 of them is defeated than all of them reelected.

Except the Democrats aren't clearly favored to pick up 6 seats, they're clearly favored to pick up 2: WI and IL. The rest are at least somewhat ambiguous (FL, NH) or the Republican is more likely to win (OH, PA).
Portman and Toomey arent going to survive if Clinton carries their state which is likely.

Every poll out there shows  Toomey running ahead of Trump, and McGinty is a terrible candidate. PA is likely R.

There isn't anything special about Toomey at all..he's just a generic Republican.

If Clinton is winning nationally pretty much all the competitive races will go to the Democrats, and this seat is no different.

McGinty isn't terrible either....she's just another Generic Democrat (who happens to be a woman I guess).    The candidates aren't a major part of this race.
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« Reply #24 on: June 14, 2016, 08:13:02 am »

Beautiful poll!
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