Is this Clinton's absolute ceiling?

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

This thread aged horribly, lol

Had the election been held one week after Access Hollywood, we would have seen some pretty gaudy maps.

[Pericles]

This thread aged horribly, lol

Had the election been held one week after Access Hollywood, we would have seen some pretty gaudy maps.

The RCP polling average on October 14 had Clinton leading by 6.7%. So WI, PA, MI, FL, NE-02 AZ and NC would probably go for Clinton, and maybe GA could flip. But Trump wouldn't lose in a true landslide.

[morgankingsley]

In all reality, I feel like Trump would hit triple digits no matter what would had happen. Not that it would have been that hard to hit triple digits these days for either party lol

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

In all reality, I feel like Trump would hit triple digits no matter what would had happen. Not that it would have been that hard to hit triple digits these days for either party lol

Even Dukakis hit triple digits in the EC, while only losing the PV by 8%. And he had one of the most inefficient vote distribution for any post-war nominee, losing many states by single digits.
If Dukakis could do it so would Trump, by default.

[morgankingsley]

These 115 electoral votes are the minimum any republican can get, imo

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

These 115 electoral votes are the minimum any republican can get, imo

Indiana?

The right Democrat in the right circumstances and fundamentals could win IN, ND, and MT.

I often wonder about Louisiana. The Cajun culture is definitely a wildcard, and they are much more socially live-and-let-live than the rest of the South.

[morgankingsley]

Okay, I might have to concede Indiana to you. I do feel though, that if Pence stays in 2020, and if he runs in 2024, then it will be a safe blue state in those two elections, but in 2028, I can see how it could be a blue state that might flip red. Sort of like I see Minnesota as a leaning red state that might flip blue under the right circumstances

[Beefalow and the Consumer]

Okay, I might have to concede Indiana to you. I do feel though, that if Pence stays in 2020, and if he runs in 2024, then it will be a safe blue state in those two elections, but in 2028, I can see how it could be a blue state that might flip red. Sort of like I see Minnesota as a leaning red state that might flip blue under the right circumstances

2008: Gore is finishing his second term and John Edwards is the nominee, with the Great Recession ramping up and a disaster in Afghanistan. Edwards's infidelity comes out two weeks before the election. Mitt Romney is the GOP challenger.

OK, maybe that's a bit extreme. Romney wouldn't just win Minnesota. He'd win California. (And MA, obviously.)

I'm posting this in What-ifs, because I'm curious what the maps would be.