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« on: July 12, 2016, 12:59:04 PM »

45% Clinton
38% Trump
14% Someone else
4% Not sure

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2596243

HILLARY WEAK FIT FOR COLORADO!!11!
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« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2016, 01:01:07 PM »

45% Clinton
38% Trump
14% Someone else
4% Not sure

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2596243

HILLARY WEAK FIT FOR COLORADO!!11!

BUT BUT BUT!! I WAS TOLD TRUMP WOULD WIN COLORADO!!!
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2016, 01:02:27 PM »

http://harperpolling.com/polls/colorado-general-election-poll
http://harperpolling.com/docs/default-source/default-document-library/16-07-co-general-crosstabs.pdf?sfvrsn=0

Clinton leads Trump by 12% among women (48-36%) while he narrows her advantage to 1% among men (41-40%).

Democrats are somewhat more supportive of Clinton (84%) than Republicans are of Trump (75%, 14% Clinton, 9% Someone else), but Trump draws the race to a tie among Independents (33-33%).

Whites
Clinton 45
Trump 38
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« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2016, 01:02:41 PM »

lol Clinton is not leading in CO if Trump is winning FL and IA. Either Clinton is the real leader in those two states or Trump is winning here.
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« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2016, 01:03:32 PM »

Cool, cool. Sanders would be a good surrogate to send to this state to campaign.
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« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2016, 01:04:01 PM »

This actually makes sense if you look at the national polling on college educated and Hispanics.
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« Reply #6 on: July 12, 2016, 01:04:59 PM »

lol Clinton is not leading in CO if Trump is winning FL and IA. Either Clinton is the real leader in those two states or Trump is winning here.

The Florida polls are junk. But yeah, I doubt IA/CO will be that far apart.
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« Reply #7 on: July 12, 2016, 01:05:39 PM »

Good numbers for Clinton.

CO is moving strongly DEM on the Pres. level it seems and the demographic profile of the state is strongly against Trump. CO is full of highly educated young hipsters and has few of the uneducated rednecks that usually support Trump.
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2016, 01:06:00 PM »

lol Clinton is not leading in CO if Trump is winning FL and IA. Either Clinton is the real leader in those two states or Trump is winning here.

The Florida polls are junk. But yeah, I doubt IA/CO will be that far apart.

Colorado has more college educated voters and a growing minority population. They're not moving in the same direction.
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« Reply #9 on: July 12, 2016, 01:07:50 PM »

It should be interesting if the Monmouth poll backs this up tomorrow ...
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« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2016, 01:07:57 PM »
« Edited: July 12, 2016, 01:09:55 PM by Libertarian Socialist »

wut i just saw the crosstabs. . .

There is no way Clinton has a larger lead with Whites than Hispanics and is only +30 with blacks.
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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2016, 01:09:12 PM »

lol Clinton is not leading in CO if Trump is winning FL and IA. Either Clinton is the real leader in those two states or Trump is winning here.

The Florida polls are junk. But yeah, I doubt IA/CO will be that far apart.

Colorado has more college educated voters and a growing minority population. They're not moving in the same direction.

They might not move in the same direction, but I'll eat a hat if Colorado ends up being 9 points more Democratic than Iowa when all is said and done.
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« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2016, 01:10:20 PM »

Hmm... do you guys still think Trump is more likely to win CO than NV?

No, it's harder to poll Hispanics, especially those that speak Spanish, and Nevada has more.
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« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2016, 01:10:44 PM »

lol Clinton is not leading in CO if Trump is winning FL and IA. Either Clinton is the real leader in those two states or Trump is winning here.

The Florida polls are junk. But yeah, I doubt IA/CO will be that far apart.

Colorado has more college educated voters and a growing minority population. They're not moving in the same direction.

They might not move in the same direction, but I'll eat a hat if Colorado ends up being 9 points more Democratic than Iowa when all is said and done.

IA will likely end up voting for Hillary, but CO has all the potential and the right ingredients to really show Trump the middle-finger and come out way above the national average ...
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« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2016, 01:10:54 PM »

Hmm... do you guys still think Trump is more likely to win CO than NV?

Yes? Clark is firmly a Democratic county, and Washoe is a tossup at worst, and almost the whole state lives in those two counties. Colorado is more than just Denver + suburbs + Boulder.
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« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2016, 01:13:42 PM »

Guys, this poll cannot be taken seriously.
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« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2016, 01:15:06 PM »

Guys, this poll cannot be taken seriously.

Why not ? Harper has released relatively good polls in the past, for an R pollster.
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« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2016, 01:15:53 PM »

Wow, not a good poll for Trump, considering it's Harper. I guess Trump as a candidate was what it took to kill the "Safe R CO" meme.

Hmm... do you guys still think Trump is more likely to win CO than NV?

Yes, because Trump still has a realistic chance of winning CO, even if it's unlikely.
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« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2016, 01:17:44 PM »

Guys, this poll cannot be taken seriously.

Why not ? Harper has released relatively good polls in the past, for an R pollster.

I explained this in my other two posts.
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« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2016, 01:27:13 PM »

wut i just saw the crosstabs. . .

There is no way Clinton has a larger lead with Whites than Hispanics and is only +30 with blacks.

Do we know what the % of Hispanics and African Americans that made up this poll?
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« Reply #20 on: July 12, 2016, 01:30:14 PM »

Wow, this poll is also only 25% cellphone based. Really good news for Clinton.
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« Reply #21 on: July 12, 2016, 01:31:37 PM »

Colorado: Likely D?
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« Reply #22 on: July 12, 2016, 01:37:44 PM »

Colorado seems to be a bad fit for Big Don. Likely most of the 17 other fellows would do better here. Nevertheless, all he needs is Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania and we gonna have President TRUMP.
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« Reply #23 on: July 12, 2016, 01:38:49 PM »

Colorado seems to be a bad fit for Big Don. Likely most of the 17 other fellows would do better here. Nevertheless, all he needs is Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania and we gonna have President TRUMP.

That's too bad, he's only (barely) leading FL in GOP polls with wacky (Trump winning Hispanics in JMC) or no demographics (OnMessage).
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« Reply #24 on: July 12, 2016, 01:39:32 PM »

wut i just saw the crosstabs. . .

There is no way Clinton has a larger lead with Whites than Hispanics and is only +30 with blacks.

Do we know what the % of Hispanics and African Americans that made up this poll?

500 LV

78% white (which would be about 390 LV)
4% black (20 LV)
12% Hispanic (60 LV)
6% other (30 LV)

The actual numbers are estimates.
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