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« Reply #575 on: November 01, 2016, 01:52:15 pm »

Wow, it sounds nice, given that this is PPP Tongue

Why?

PPP is a landline pollster, which generally favors the GOP.

Yeah, out of all the pollsters this cycle, they haven't been the friendliest to Hillary.
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« Reply #576 on: November 01, 2016, 01:58:24 pm »

Wow, it sounds nice, given that this is PPP Tongue

Why?

PPP is a landline pollster, which generally favors the GOP.

Yeah, out of all the pollsters this cycle, they haven't been the friendliest to Hillary.

To be fair, they also include an online component.
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« Reply #577 on: November 01, 2016, 02:07:52 pm »

Wow, it sounds nice, given that this is PPP Tongue

Why?

PPP is a landline pollster, which generally favors the GOP.

Yeah, out of all the pollsters this cycle, they haven't been the friendliest to Hillary.

To be fair, they also include an online component.

Yeah, IVR-only like Emerson is a serious problem. It's (probably/all but) all evened out in PPP, I think.
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« Reply #578 on: November 01, 2016, 02:10:59 pm »
« Edited: November 01, 2016, 02:12:56 pm by Happy Sad Trumpista »

Wow, it sounds nice, given that this is PPP Tongue

Why?

PPP is a landline pollster, which generally favors the GOP.

They don't favor GOP in this cycle, no.

But anyways, I was talking about their message. They likely won't publish those polls, why my interpretation is that their "Clinton +3-5" are D-friendly and means sort of: Clinton is at best +3-5 Tongue
No data, no responsibility.

We'll see soon.
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« Reply #579 on: November 01, 2016, 02:12:57 pm »

Wow, it sounds nice, given that this is PPP Tongue

Why?

PPP is a landline pollster, which generally favors the GOP.

They don't favor GOP in this cycly, no.

But anyways, I was talking about their message. They likely won't publish those polls, why my interpretation is that their "Clinton +3-5" are D-friendly and means sort of: Clinton is at best +3-5 Tongue

We'll see soon.
Or they won't publish polls because they are not doing any public polls for the last two weeks.  All private.
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« Reply #580 on: November 01, 2016, 02:13:53 pm »

Wow, it sounds nice, given that this is PPP Tongue

Why?

PPP is a landline pollster, which generally favors the GOP.

They don't favor GOP in this cycly, no.

But anyways, I was talking about their message. They likely won't publish those polls, why my interpretation is that their "Clinton +3-5" are D-friendly and means sort of: Clinton is at best +3-5 Tongue

We'll see soon.
Or they won't publish polls because they are not doing any public polls for the last two weeks.  All private.
Yep, that's why they can say anything.
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« Reply #581 on: November 01, 2016, 02:14:27 pm »

PPP national polls were actually lower than the average.
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« Reply #582 on: November 01, 2016, 02:14:58 pm »

Wow, it sounds nice, given that this is PPP Tongue

Why?

PPP is a landline pollster, which generally favors the GOP.

They don't favor GOP in this cycly, no.

But anyways, I was talking about their message. They likely won't publish those polls, why my interpretation is that their "Clinton +3-5" are D-friendly and means sort of: Clinton is at best +3-5 Tongue

We'll see soon.
Or they won't publish polls because they are not doing any public polls for the last two weeks.  All private.
Yep, that's why they can say anything.
They can't give out numbers, which they haven't but they can talk trends all they want.
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« Reply #583 on: November 01, 2016, 02:19:38 pm »

Wow, it sounds nice, given that this is PPP Tongue

Why?

PPP is a landline pollster, which generally favors the GOP.

They don't favor GOP in this cycly, no.

But anyways, I was talking about their message. They likely won't publish those polls, why my interpretation is that their "Clinton +3-5" are D-friendly and means sort of: Clinton is at best +3-5 Tongue

We'll see soon.
Or they won't publish polls because they are not doing any public polls for the last two weeks.  All private.

Right, but in many cases if the poll is favorable to the Democrat (PPP's client, generally), they'll release the poll.  Given that we haven't seen any PPP polls in something like a week, my guess is the battleground trends aren't looking particularly favorable for Clinton, even if she remains ahead in them.
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« Reply #584 on: November 01, 2016, 02:20:41 pm »

Wow, it sounds nice, given that this is PPP Tongue

Why?

PPP is a landline pollster, which generally favors the GOP.

They don't favor GOP in this cycly, no.

But anyways, I was talking about their message. They likely won't publish those polls, why my interpretation is that their "Clinton +3-5" are D-friendly and means sort of: Clinton is at best +3-5 Tongue

We'll see soon.
Or they won't publish polls because they are not doing any public polls for the last two weeks.  All private.

Right, but in many cases if the poll is favorable to the Democrat (PPP's client, generally), they'll release the poll.  Given that we haven't seen any PPP polls in something like a week, my guess is the battleground trends aren't looking particularly favorable for Clinton, even if she remains ahead in them.
Or they just don't want to release. 
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« Reply #585 on: November 01, 2016, 02:21:54 pm »

Wow, it sounds nice, given that this is PPP Tongue

Why?

PPP is a landline pollster, which generally favors the GOP.

They don't favor GOP in this cycly, no.

But anyways, I was talking about their message. They likely won't publish those polls, why my interpretation is that their "Clinton +3-5" are D-friendly and means sort of: Clinton is at best +3-5 Tongue

We'll see soon.
Or they won't publish polls because they are not doing any public polls for the last two weeks.  All private.

Right, but in many cases if the poll is favorable to the Democrat (PPP's client, generally), they'll release the poll.  Given that we haven't seen any PPP polls in something like a week, my guess is the battleground trends aren't looking particularly favorable for Clinton, even if she remains ahead in them.

No, PPP's client will release the poll. PPP has no say if their private polls are released.
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« Reply #586 on: November 01, 2016, 02:57:18 pm »

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top GOP pollster #2: erosion for HRC, but on track for 3-pt pop-vote win. "weird things might increase EV lead: winning AZ, Trump losing UT"

The Arizona dream still lives!
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« Reply #587 on: November 01, 2016, 03:05:33 pm »

Wow, it sounds nice, given that this is PPP Tongue

Why?

PPP is a landline pollster, which generally favors the GOP.

They don't favor GOP in this cycly, no.

But anyways, I was talking about their message. They likely won't publish those polls, why my interpretation is that their "Clinton +3-5" are D-friendly and means sort of: Clinton is at best +3-5 Tongue

We'll see soon.
Or they won't publish polls because they are not doing any public polls for the last two weeks.  All private.

Right, but in many cases if the poll is favorable to the Democrat (PPP's client, generally), they'll release the poll.  Given that we haven't seen any PPP polls in something like a week, my guess is the battleground trends aren't looking particularly favorable for Clinton, even if she remains ahead in them.

No, PPP's client will release the poll. PPP has no say if their private polls are released.

By "they'll release the poll", I meant "PPP's client will release the poll".  You're correct.
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« Reply #588 on: November 01, 2016, 03:34:29 pm »

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top GOP pollster #2: erosion for HRC, but on track for 3-pt pop-vote win. "weird things might increase EV lead: winning AZ, Trump losing UT"

The Arizona dream still lives!

As does the Utah dream.
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« Reply #589 on: November 01, 2016, 03:48:17 pm »

PublicPolicyPolling ‏@ppppolls  8m8 minutes ago
Every NC poll we've done in the last month has had Clinton up narrowly. She will probably win. If she loses it will be likely be by 1-2 pts
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« Reply #590 on: November 01, 2016, 03:50:10 pm »

PublicPolicyPolling ‏@ppppolls  8m8 minutes ago
Every NC poll we've done in the last month has had Clinton up narrowly. She will probably win. If she loses it will be likely be by 1-2 pts

Niiiice.
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« Reply #591 on: November 01, 2016, 07:47:17 pm »

http://www.nystateofpolitics.com/2016/11/trump-for-ny-poll-shows-a-much-closer-race-in-ny/

Trump internal has Clinton up 49-38 in New York, after doing a push question.

"Before being asked who their favored candidate was, the pollster asked voters: “All things being equal, would you be more likely to vote for a candidate for president that will continue many of President Obama’s policies for the next four years or change and take the country in a new and different direction?”
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« Reply #592 on: November 01, 2016, 07:48:34 pm »

PublicPolicyPolling ‏@ppppolls  8m8 minutes ago
Every NC poll we've done in the last month has had Clinton up narrowly. She will probably win. If she loses it will be likely be by 1-2 pts

Niiiice.

Trump will win NC by at least 3%, though no more than 5%.
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« Reply #593 on: November 01, 2016, 07:50:16 pm »

http://www.nystateofpolitics.com/2016/11/trump-for-ny-poll-shows-a-much-closer-race-in-ny/

Trump internal has Clinton up 49-38 in New York, after doing a push question.

"Before being asked who their favored candidate was, the pollster asked voters: “All things being equal, would you be more likely to vote for a candidate for president that will continue many of President Obama’s policies for the next four years or change and take the country in a new and different direction?”

What a joke.
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« Reply #594 on: November 01, 2016, 07:51:26 pm »

Hillary has rarely hit the upper 50s in a NY poll, so it's not impossible Trump could hit 40% there, though unlikely.
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« Reply #595 on: November 01, 2016, 07:53:17 pm »

Majority Leader Cantor nods his head in approval at that NY poll.
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« Reply #596 on: November 01, 2016, 07:53:45 pm »

Hillary has rarely hit the upper 50s in a NY poll, so it's not impossible Trump could hit 40% there, though unlikely.

I am talking about the question.
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« Reply #597 on: November 01, 2016, 08:32:46 pm »

While I do expect Trump to perform better in New York than Romney, I don't see how he hits 40%. You have to remember that Stein\Johnson\others will probably get about 5% of the vote here.
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« Reply #598 on: November 02, 2016, 07:45:00 am »

John Harwood ‏@JohnJHarwood  18m18 minutes ago
top GOP pollster: "Johnson continuing to trend down.  Clinton holding steady lead of about 5 points"


How many "top GOP pollsters" does Harwood know? Not everyone can be a top pollster.
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« Reply #599 on: November 02, 2016, 07:46:48 am »

John Harwood ‏@JohnJHarwood  18m18 minutes ago
top GOP pollster: "Johnson continuing to trend down.  Clinton holding steady lead of about 5 points"


How many "top GOP pollsters" does Harwood know? Not everyone can be a top pollster.
lol maybe he has money invested in the betting odds
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